From jmorris@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca Fri Dec 15 07:32:19 PST 1995 Article: 16088 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!van-bc!news.mindlink.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news From: jmorris@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (John Morris) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: The Verdicts at Nuremberg Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 00:05:06 GMT Organization: University of Alberta Lines: 85 Message-ID: <4aqdmj$h7e@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <4apih2$fp2@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: async14-15.remote.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 tokrse@aol.com (TokRse) wrote: >You've heard it before! >The verdicts of the International Military Tribunal >Goering - GUILTY! [...] >NOT GUILTY AT NUREMBERG: >THE GERMAN DEFENSE CASE >By Carlos Porter >NOW AVAILABLE ON THE WORLD-WIDE-WEB >http://www.valleynet.com/~brsmith/ Unfortunately, I only have only volume of the IMT series mentioned by Mr. Porter out of the library at the moment, volume VII which contains the statement of Dr. Sigmund Mazur of the Danzig Institute on the manufacture of soap from human fat. Mazur's statement was corroborated by two British servicemen, particularly John Henry Witton, who worked at the Danzig Institute as POWs. Here are the first two of three paragraphs of Porter's *full text* on the "soap" stories: In 1946, it was a "proven fact" that Nazis made human soap (Judgement, Nuremberg Trial, IMTI 152; VII 597-600; XIX 506; XXII 496). This "fact" has since become, apparently, merely "rumour" (Hilberg, "revised definitive" Destruction of the European Jews, Holmes and Meier, NY, page 966: "To this day, the origin of the soap making rumour has not been traced"). There are actually two soap stories, and Porter deliberately elides the stories into one. Hilberg is referring to a large number of soap rumors that were heard all over Europe, the most famous of which was the rumor that soap was mass-produced and marketed by RIF. Historians have long known, and published, that these rumors were untrue though this effort has apparently had little effect in curbing the popular mythology. On the other hand, the IMT heard evidence about experiments in soap-making undertaken at the Danzig Institute. As the IMT record makes clear no more than perhaps 25 kg of soap were manufactured there, and it is clear that the Danzig experiments were unsuccessful in finding a economical method for mass-producing soap from human fat. Deniers have never refuted the statements of Mazur and Witton. Instead they prefer to talk about the soap experiments and the soap rumors as if they were the same thing. By eliding the stories and by providing as little detail as possible, deniers hope to mislead people into believing that much nonsense was entered into the IMT record and that the Nazis convicted there were thus unjustly convicted. They also hope that no one will check their references which time and again prove that they have attempted to falsify the historical record by quoting selectively and out of context. And Porter's final paragraph: The forensically untested "rumour" of Soviet origin (Exhibit USSR 393) is in the Peace Palace of The Hague. Peace Palace officials show it to eager visitors and tell them it is authentic; but do not, apparently, answer letters from persons asking to have it tested. The document is actually docketed as USSR-197, and the prosecutor begins reading at page 393. More important than Porter's carelessness on this point is the fact that Porter does not anywhere mention who ever requested that the soap should be analyzed or that any such request was ever made: we are merely expected to believe that such a request was put forth and refused. Porter's article is a classic example of the way in which Holocaust deniers lie to us all. I urge others not only read Porter's article but to go to the library and check out a volume or two of _The Trial of the Major War Criminals before the International Military Tribunal, Nuremburg_ and compare what is actually said to what the deniers would have you believe was said. -- John Morrisat University of Alberta ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Nizkor Project: An Electronic Holocaust Resource File archives - ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca Web page - http://nizkor.almanac.bc.ca
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