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From: xenith@er6.rutgers.edu (Marcus Aurelius)
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Subject: Re: OJ Found Innocent - Whites Riot
Date: 4 Sep 1995 00:04:04 -0400
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Whites would never lower themselves to the level of burning their
own towns and stores to the ground.
It's an evolutionary thing, you wouldn't understand.
M
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
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Subject: Petition
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[I am posting this for a friend. Please do NOT reply by e-mail.
Instead, please call Ms. Yeh at the number given below.--PR.]
*************************************************************
Looking for volunteers to CIRCULATE A PETITION supporting a five-
year MORATORIUM ON IMMIGRATION with an all-inclusive ceiling of
100,000 a year for five years.
If you are interested, please contact Yeh Ling-Ling in California
for copies of the petition by phone: 510/376-4766 or FAX: 510/631-
9757. (You are welcome to retype the petition shown below directly
or write her for copies). Kindly return the signed petitions to
Yeh Ling-Ling at: P.O. Box 1991, Orinda, CA 94563.
Yeh Ling-Ling, a naturalized citizen of Chinese ancestry, has
recently appeared on a talk show with Congressman Lamar Smith,
Chair of the House Judiciary's Subcommittee on Immigration, and two
members of the U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform, to discuss
the latest recommendations by the U.S. Commission. Yeh also has
many articles published in major newspapers across the country.
The text of the petition will be as follows:
TO: PRESIDENT CLINTON & THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS
c/o Yeh Ling-Ling, National Representative,
Carrying Capacity Network. Phone: 510/376-4766
P.O. Box 1991, Orinda, CA 94563
We, the undersigned, support a five-year moratorium on immigration
with an all-inclusive ceiling of 100,000 a year during the five-
year period. With a national debt of $4.8 trillion and 39 million
Americans living below the poverty line, the U.S. needs such a
time-out from immigration to address existing budgetary, social and
economic problems as well as to develop a long-term responsible
immigration policy that would respond to our economic realities and
resource availability.
Individuals should indicate name, address (with zip code), and sign
below. Thank you!
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Randy Weaver
Date: 7 Sep 1995 12:15:30 -0400
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ANA
Reply-To: bf221@freenet.carleton.ca
From: Anton
Target of FBI siege tells his story Wednesday
Three years ago, federal agents shot and killed Randy Weaver's wife and son.
Wednesday, the white separatist gets to tell Congress, and the nation, his
side of the story.
Weaver and his daughter, Sara, 19, are scheduled to be the lead witnesses as
a Senate panel begins looking into what critics call one of the worst abuses
of power in FBI history.
Their testimony about the government's ill-fated raid on Weaver's Ruby
Ridge, Idaho, cabin - coming amid allegations of an FBI cover-up - will be
"really gripping," predicts Jess Walter, who interviewed the Weavers for his
new book on the case, Every Knee Shall Bend. "They both have such compelling
stories to tell."
Weaver is expected to talk about seeing an FBI sniper's bullet tear into his
wife's head as she stood behind a door holding their 10-month-old daughter.
And Weaver and his older daughter are expected to describe their fear during
the 11-day standoff with several hundred federal and local agents.
A key goal for Senate investigators is finding out how the reconnaissance
mission - U.S. marshals wanted to serve an arrest warrant on Weaver for
weapons charges - turned the remote hillside into a virtual war zone.
The Aug. 22, 1992, surveillance went terribly awry when a family dog that
spotted the marshals was shot.
A shootout that followed left Deputy U.S. Marshal William Degan and Weaver's
son, Samuel, dead. Vicki Weaver, Weaver's wife, was killed later by a
sniper.
There has been no evidence that Weaver, who surrendered 10 days later, ever
fired a shot at officers. The government last month agreed to pay $3.1
million to Weaver and his three daughters to settle a civil lawsuit.
Says Gerry Spence, Weaver's lawyer: The Ruby Ridge case stands as an
"unbelievably classic example of abuse of power vested in federal law
enforcement."
The hearings promise to address that issue, also raised by the National
Rifle Association, which says federal law enforcement agents have become
"jack-booted government thugs."
The Ruby Ridge hearings come on the heels of House hearings into the 1993
raid on the Branch Davidian religious compound near Waco, Texas, that left
four federal agents and more than 80 cult members dead.
The Waco hearings highlighted numerous examples of government bungling, but
little evidence of criminal wrongdoing. Things may be different in the Ruby
Ridge case.
Randall Day, the state prosecutor in Boundary County, Idaho, is considering
criminal charges against federal agents in connection with the Weaver case.
Meanwhile, the U.S. attorney's office in Washington is investigating a
possible cover-up by top FBI officials.
At issue is whether they tried to conceal their role in approving what
amounted to shoot-on-sight orders at Ruby Ridge - orders that veered sharply
>from standard bureau policy of using deadly force only when someone's life
is at stake.
Five high-level bureau officials, two of whom admit destroying documents
during an internal review of Ruby Ridge, were suspended this summer by FBI
Director Louis Freeh.
Freeh, Attorney General Janet Reno and some of the suspended FBI officials
are expected to testify during the 10 days of hearings.
The hearings will try to steer clear of probing cover-up questions that
might derail any subsequent criminal prosecutions, says the panel's
chairman, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa. But the question of where to draw the
line on police use of force will be closely examined.
"This is a recurrent problem every day in big cities, small towns: Deadly
force is used and this will be a classic in defining for law enforcement in
America what the Constitution allows," Specter says.
>From Los Angeles to Philadelphia, there are growing reports of local police
abuses. But the situation on the federal level may be more troubling, says
James Fyfe, a Temple University criminologist.
For one thing, most major police departments now have civilian review boards
that try to keep an eye on problems, says Fyfe, a former New York City
police lieutenant. Not so with federal agencies.
With rising institutional pressures on federal agents to make arrests,
"folks are a little less concerned about constitutional guarantees," Fyfe
says.
By Sam Vincent Meddis, USA TODAY
ANA
From xenith@clam.rutgers.edu Thu Sep 7 18:31:57 PDT 1995
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Randy Weaver
Date: 7 Sep 1995 12:15:30 -0400
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ANA
Reply-To: bf221@freenet.carleton.ca
From: Anton
Target of FBI siege tells his story Wednesday
Three years ago, federal agents shot and killed Randy Weaver's wife and son.
Wednesday, the white separatist gets to tell Congress, and the nation, his
side of the story.
Weaver and his daughter, Sara, 19, are scheduled to be the lead witnesses as
a Senate panel begins looking into what critics call one of the worst abuses
of power in FBI history.
Their testimony about the government's ill-fated raid on Weaver's Ruby
Ridge, Idaho, cabin - coming amid allegations of an FBI cover-up - will be
"really gripping," predicts Jess Walter, who interviewed the Weavers for his
new book on the case, Every Knee Shall Bend. "They both have such compelling
stories to tell."
Weaver is expected to talk about seeing an FBI sniper's bullet tear into his
wife's head as she stood behind a door holding their 10-month-old daughter.
And Weaver and his older daughter are expected to describe their fear during
the 11-day standoff with several hundred federal and local agents.
A key goal for Senate investigators is finding out how the reconnaissance
mission - U.S. marshals wanted to serve an arrest warrant on Weaver for
weapons charges - turned the remote hillside into a virtual war zone.
The Aug. 22, 1992, surveillance went terribly awry when a family dog that
spotted the marshals was shot.
A shootout that followed left Deputy U.S. Marshal William Degan and Weaver's
son, Samuel, dead. Vicki Weaver, Weaver's wife, was killed later by a
sniper.
There has been no evidence that Weaver, who surrendered 10 days later, ever
fired a shot at officers. The government last month agreed to pay $3.1
million to Weaver and his three daughters to settle a civil lawsuit.
Says Gerry Spence, Weaver's lawyer: The Ruby Ridge case stands as an
"unbelievably classic example of abuse of power vested in federal law
enforcement."
The hearings promise to address that issue, also raised by the National
Rifle Association, which says federal law enforcement agents have become
"jack-booted government thugs."
The Ruby Ridge hearings come on the heels of House hearings into the 1993
raid on the Branch Davidian religious compound near Waco, Texas, that left
four federal agents and more than 80 cult members dead.
The Waco hearings highlighted numerous examples of government bungling, but
little evidence of criminal wrongdoing. Things may be different in the Ruby
Ridge case.
Randall Day, the state prosecutor in Boundary County, Idaho, is considering
criminal charges against federal agents in connection with the Weaver case.
Meanwhile, the U.S. attorney's office in Washington is investigating a
possible cover-up by top FBI officials.
At issue is whether they tried to conceal their role in approving what
amounted to shoot-on-sight orders at Ruby Ridge - orders that veered sharply
>from standard bureau policy of using deadly force only when someone's life
is at stake.
Five high-level bureau officials, two of whom admit destroying documents
during an internal review of Ruby Ridge, were suspended this summer by FBI
Director Louis Freeh.
Freeh, Attorney General Janet Reno and some of the suspended FBI officials
are expected to testify during the 10 days of hearings.
The hearings will try to steer clear of probing cover-up questions that
might derail any subsequent criminal prosecutions, says the panel's
chairman, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa. But the question of where to draw the
line on police use of force will be closely examined.
"This is a recurrent problem every day in big cities, small towns: Deadly
force is used and this will be a classic in defining for law enforcement in
America what the Constitution allows," Specter says.
>From Los Angeles to Philadelphia, there are growing reports of local police
abuses. But the situation on the federal level may be more troubling, says
James Fyfe, a Temple University criminologist.
For one thing, most major police departments now have civilian review boards
that try to keep an eye on problems, says Fyfe, a former New York City
police lieutenant. Not so with federal agencies.
With rising institutional pressures on federal agents to make arrests,
"folks are a little less concerned about constitutional guarantees," Fyfe
says.
By Sam Vincent Meddis, USA TODAY
ANA
From xenith@clam.rutgers.edu Thu Sep 7 23:43:34 PDT 1995
Article: 1718 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Randy Weaver
Date: 7 Sep 1995 12:15:30 -0400
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Reply-To: bf221@freenet.carleton.ca
From: Anton
Target of FBI siege tells his story Wednesday
Three years ago, federal agents shot and killed Randy Weaver's wife and son.
Wednesday, the white separatist gets to tell Congress, and the nation, his
side of the story.
Weaver and his daughter, Sara, 19, are scheduled to be the lead witnesses as
a Senate panel begins looking into what critics call one of the worst abuses
of power in FBI history.
Their testimony about the government's ill-fated raid on Weaver's Ruby
Ridge, Idaho, cabin - coming amid allegations of an FBI cover-up - will be
"really gripping," predicts Jess Walter, who interviewed the Weavers for his
new book on the case, Every Knee Shall Bend. "They both have such compelling
stories to tell."
Weaver is expected to talk about seeing an FBI sniper's bullet tear into his
wife's head as she stood behind a door holding their 10-month-old daughter.
And Weaver and his older daughter are expected to describe their fear during
the 11-day standoff with several hundred federal and local agents.
A key goal for Senate investigators is finding out how the reconnaissance
mission - U.S. marshals wanted to serve an arrest warrant on Weaver for
weapons charges - turned the remote hillside into a virtual war zone.
The Aug. 22, 1992, surveillance went terribly awry when a family dog that
spotted the marshals was shot.
A shootout that followed left Deputy U.S. Marshal William Degan and Weaver's
son, Samuel, dead. Vicki Weaver, Weaver's wife, was killed later by a
sniper.
There has been no evidence that Weaver, who surrendered 10 days later, ever
fired a shot at officers. The government last month agreed to pay $3.1
million to Weaver and his three daughters to settle a civil lawsuit.
Says Gerry Spence, Weaver's lawyer: The Ruby Ridge case stands as an
"unbelievably classic example of abuse of power vested in federal law
enforcement."
The hearings promise to address that issue, also raised by the National
Rifle Association, which says federal law enforcement agents have become
"jack-booted government thugs."
The Ruby Ridge hearings come on the heels of House hearings into the 1993
raid on the Branch Davidian religious compound near Waco, Texas, that left
four federal agents and more than 80 cult members dead.
The Waco hearings highlighted numerous examples of government bungling, but
little evidence of criminal wrongdoing. Things may be different in the Ruby
Ridge case.
Randall Day, the state prosecutor in Boundary County, Idaho, is considering
criminal charges against federal agents in connection with the Weaver case.
Meanwhile, the U.S. attorney's office in Washington is investigating a
possible cover-up by top FBI officials.
At issue is whether they tried to conceal their role in approving what
amounted to shoot-on-sight orders at Ruby Ridge - orders that veered sharply
>from standard bureau policy of using deadly force only when someone's life
is at stake.
Five high-level bureau officials, two of whom admit destroying documents
during an internal review of Ruby Ridge, were suspended this summer by FBI
Director Louis Freeh.
Freeh, Attorney General Janet Reno and some of the suspended FBI officials
are expected to testify during the 10 days of hearings.
The hearings will try to steer clear of probing cover-up questions that
might derail any subsequent criminal prosecutions, says the panel's
chairman, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa. But the question of where to draw the
line on police use of force will be closely examined.
"This is a recurrent problem every day in big cities, small towns: Deadly
force is used and this will be a classic in defining for law enforcement in
America what the Constitution allows," Specter says.
>From Los Angeles to Philadelphia, there are growing reports of local police
abuses. But the situation on the federal level may be more troubling, says
James Fyfe, a Temple University criminologist.
For one thing, most major police departments now have civilian review boards
that try to keep an eye on problems, says Fyfe, a former New York City
police lieutenant. Not so with federal agencies.
With rising institutional pressures on federal agents to make arrests,
"folks are a little less concerned about constitutional guarantees," Fyfe
says.
By Sam Vincent Meddis, USA TODAY
ANA
From xenith@clam.rutgers.edu Fri Sep 8 16:39:14 PDT 1995
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
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Subject: Violent Socialists support AA
Date: 8 Sep 1995 15:13:36 -0400
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I am reposting this message from one of the liberal news agencies that I
monitor.
To: Multiple recipients of list AFFAM-L
[NOTE: Please repost this to anyone you know involved in Affirmative
Action fights, so they don't get treated in the same way because of lack
of knowledge of this sort of sectarian attack.--NN]
The following statement has been signed by a range of national socialist
leaders and Bay Area socialist activists (see the list at the end of the
statement):
STATEMENT:
====================================================================
SOCIALIST ORGANIZATIONS CONDEMN ATTACK AT UCB BY
"COALITION TO DEFEND AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY"
AND THE REVOLUTIONARY WORKERS LEAGUE/NWROC
==================================================================
On Wednesday, August 30th at UC-Berkeley, the Coalition to Defend
Affirmative Action by Any Means Necessary, which is composed largely of
members of the Revolutionary Workers League, assaulted leaders of the
broad student Diversity in Action (DIA) coaliti on and sought to disrupt
DIA's pro-affirmative action rally. Members of the Revolutionary Workers
League assaulted students and shoved them aside in order to seize DIA's
microphone and harangue the crowd gathered at the rally. This followed a
pattern of disruption of DIA organizing by the Revolutionary Workers League.
As socialists, we condemn the actions of the Coalition to Defend
Affirmative Action By Any Means Necessary and the Revolutionary Workers
League (RWL). The Revolutionary Workers League's actions in no way
reflect socialist values and contribute nothing to social change,
"revolutionary" or otherwise. The Revolutionary Workers League, both
under that name and its National Women's Rights Organizing Committee
(NWROC) name, has a history across the United States of similar disruption
and undermining of progre ssive coalitions.
We call on all socialists and left-minded individuals of principle to
reject the tactics of the Revolutionary Workers League and the Coalition
to Defend Affirmative Action by Any Means Necessary.
Militant socialist values can and must be promoted with respect for the
broad progressive movements. There is no room in the left for the
sabotague and disruption that has been too common a characteristic of the
Revolutionary Workers League.
As members of the left, we are committed to supporting progressive change
and our allies fighting for affirmative action.
In Solidarity,
National Socialist Leaders
--------------------------
David McReynolds, Socialist Party USA
National Co-chair
Duane Campbell, Democratic Socialists of America
Anti-Racism Commission
Sushawn Robb, Committees of Correspondence
National Co-Chair
Claudette Begin, Solidarity
National Political Committee
Bay Area Socialist Organizations/Chapters
-----------------------------------------
Northern California Committees of Correspondence
Freedom Socialist Party
UC-Berkeley Campus
------------------
Nathan Newman, Committees of Correspondence
Tom Boot, AFSCME Local 3211, Diversity Council
Janice Kimball, AFSCME Local 3211, President
Anders Schneiderman, Committees of Correspondence
Jim Cane, AGSE/UAW, History Department Steward
Steve Ongerth, Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) member
Other Areas of Country
----------------------
Robert Naiman, Socialist Forum, Urbana Illinois
Chris Faatz, Oregon Fellowship of Reconciliation, Board
Stan Yasaitis, AFSCME Local 82, Pres U-WI-Milwaukee
Paul Burke, Appalachian Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee, Vice-Chair
J.J. Plant, Editorial Board Revolutionary History,London
Warren Davis, Solidarity, Philadelphia Branch
Justin Schwartz, Solidarity, Columbus Branch Chair
Pablo Vragus, Solidarity, San Diego Branch
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
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Subject: Re: Violent Socialists support AA
Date: 9 Sep 1995 02:10:14 -0400
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Hey it kinda looks like an ape. Shaven Ape that is...
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
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Subject: Re: Violent Socialists support AA
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Hey it kinda looks like an ape. Shaven Ape that is...
From xenith@clam.rutgers.edu Sat Sep 9 12:00:54 PDT 1995
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: what does ADL stand for?
Date: 9 Sep 1995 13:49:44 -0400
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montana@triton.unm.edu (montana janus) writes:
>just wondering what ADl stands for, been reading about it but am not
>sure. can anyone help me with this?
ADL stands for Anti-Defecation League.
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
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Subject: Weaver Massacre
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ATF Chief Admits 'Inexcusable' Action in Weaver Case
By MARCY GORDON
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - While defending his beleaguered agency before skeptical
senators, the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
acknowledged an "inexcusable" action in the siege of white separatist Randy
Weaver.
ATF Director John Magaw made the admission at a Senate hearing Friday on the
1992 standoff at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, that ended with the deaths of Weaver's
wife, his 14-year-old son and a deputy U.S. marshal.
Under questioning by Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., Magaw said it was
"inexcusable" that an ATF agent characterized Weaver to the U.S. attorney's
office as a suspect in bank robberies. Weaver wasn't a suspect, he said.
"How that got turned around in that manner, I'm not sure," Magaw added.
Weaver's sale of two sawed-off shotguns to an ATF undercover informant and
his failure to appear for trial led to the 11-day standoff and fatal
shootout at Weaver's mountain homestead.
When the hearings resume next Tuesday, the FBI sniper who shot and killed
Weaver's wife, Vicki, as she stood in the doorway of the family's cabin, is
expected to testify. A Justice Department report criticized the sniper, Lon
Horiuchi, for firing the shot.
Weaver was acquitted of the illegal-firearms charge in a 1993 trial.
Magaw's testimony before the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on terrorism came
at a time when the ATF has been under intense political fire.
Several weeks ago, the Treasury Department agency and the FBI were barraged
with criticism by Republicans at House hearings for their handling of the
deadly 1993 standoff with the Branch Davidian sect near Waco, Texas.
Also this summer, a videotape surfaced purporting to show virulently racist
activities at an annual "Good Ol' Boys" picnic for federal agents organized
by a former ATF agent. The Justice and Treasury departments have begun
investigations and the full Senate Judiciary Committee held well-publicized
hearings.
At Friday's hearing on Ruby Ridge, Specter, who is seeking the GOP
presidential nomination, noted that ATF guidelines are geared to rewarding
informants based on the magnitude of the violation and punishment. Such a
policy "puts a premium on a motivation to falsify," he suggested.
Magaw replied, "Your point is well taken" and he promised to review the
matter: "You can consider it done."
Specter said the law enforcement focus on Weaver was "above and beyond the
facts of the case." And Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, said it creates the
perception of selective prosecution.
"I don't see it" that way, Magaw responded.
Specter said ATF case agent Herb Byerly sent an inaccurate letter about
Weaver to the U.S. attorney's office saying Weaver had a criminal record.
Separately, a memo in the marshal's office stated that an ATF agent told the
U.S. attorney's office that Weaver was a suspect in several bank robberies.
He wasn't.
Earlier in Friday's hearing, the ATF undercover informant who bought the
guns from Weaver, Kenneth Fadeley, insisted he did not trick Weaver into
making the illegal sale. He said the white separatist offered to "supply me
with shotguns all day long."
Testifying from behind a partition, his voice distorted electronically to
disguise it, Fadeley said Weaver abruptly declared one day in October 1989,
"I would like to go to work for you." At the time, Fadeley, posing as a gun
trader, was infiltrating right-wing extremist groups such as the Aryan
Nations for the ATF.
ANA
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.discrimination
Subject: AA in Mass.
Date: 10 Sep 1995 19:53:32 -0400
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I am reposting this from affam-l@cmsa.Berkeley.EDU
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 07:45:53 EDT
From: MR ALEX WALKER
To: affam-l@cmsa.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Liberal Massachusetts Jumps on Bandwagon
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
MAY FACE 1996 REFERENDUM
IN MASSACHUSETTS
Excerpted from The Boston Globe,
Thursday, September 7, 1995, P. 1.
"Attorney General Scott Harshbarger
rejected a proposed death penalty ballot
question yesterday, saying it didn't pass
constitutional muster. But he did certify
questions that next year could give
voters a chance to radically overhaul
affirmative action programs...
...To take the next step toward a spot on
the ballot, supporters of each question
must gather 64,928 signatures by Dec.
6...
...Despite strenous objections from other
opponents, Harshbarger approved another
initiative petition that would curtail
some types of government affirmative
action programs. The question exempts
court decrees ordering minority hiring
>from the proposed restrictions and is
expected to have its greatest impact on
programs that set aside a portion of
state purchases and construction
contracts for minority- and women-own ed
firms.
Ozell Hudson, executive director of the
Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights,
which is among a dozen groups that filed
legal objections to the question, said
opponents would wait to see if sponsors
gather the required signatures by by Dec.
6 before deciding whether or not to
challenge Harshbarger's decision..."
SIDEBAR:
POTENTIAL 1996 MASSACHUSETTS
BALLOT QUESTION
"ENDING QUOTAS"
"The proposal would prohibit the state
and its cities and towns from granting
preferential treatment or discriminating
against any person or group, based on
race, gender, color, ethnicity, or
national origin, in connection with
public employment, public education, or
public contracting..."
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Weaver Massacre
Date: 10 Sep 1995 19:43:26 -0400
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ATF Chief Admits 'Inexcusable' Action in Weaver Case
By MARCY GORDON
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - While defending his beleaguered agency before skeptical
senators, the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
acknowledged an "inexcusable" action in the siege of white separatist Randy
Weaver.
ATF Director John Magaw made the admission at a Senate hearing Friday on the
1992 standoff at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, that ended with the deaths of Weaver's
wife, his 14-year-old son and a deputy U.S. marshal.
Under questioning by Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., Magaw said it was
"inexcusable" that an ATF agent characterized Weaver to the U.S. attorney's
office as a suspect in bank robberies. Weaver wasn't a suspect, he said.
"How that got turned around in that manner, I'm not sure," Magaw added.
Weaver's sale of two sawed-off shotguns to an ATF undercover informant and
his failure to appear for trial led to the 11-day standoff and fatal
shootout at Weaver's mountain homestead.
When the hearings resume next Tuesday, the FBI sniper who shot and killed
Weaver's wife, Vicki, as she stood in the doorway of the family's cabin, is
expected to testify. A Justice Department report criticized the sniper, Lon
Horiuchi, for firing the shot.
Weaver was acquitted of the illegal-firearms charge in a 1993 trial.
Magaw's testimony before the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on terrorism came
at a time when the ATF has been under intense political fire.
Several weeks ago, the Treasury Department agency and the FBI were barraged
with criticism by Republicans at House hearings for their handling of the
deadly 1993 standoff with the Branch Davidian sect near Waco, Texas.
Also this summer, a videotape surfaced purporting to show virulently racist
activities at an annual "Good Ol' Boys" picnic for federal agents organized
by a former ATF agent. The Justice and Treasury departments have begun
investigations and the full Senate Judiciary Committee held well-publicized
hearings.
At Friday's hearing on Ruby Ridge, Specter, who is seeking the GOP
presidential nomination, noted that ATF guidelines are geared to rewarding
informants based on the magnitude of the violation and punishment. Such a
policy "puts a premium on a motivation to falsify," he suggested.
Magaw replied, "Your point is well taken" and he promised to review the
matter: "You can consider it done."
Specter said the law enforcement focus on Weaver was "above and beyond the
facts of the case." And Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, said it creates the
perception of selective prosecution.
"I don't see it" that way, Magaw responded.
Specter said ATF case agent Herb Byerly sent an inaccurate letter about
Weaver to the U.S. attorney's office saying Weaver had a criminal record.
Separately, a memo in the marshal's office stated that an ATF agent told the
U.S. attorney's office that Weaver was a suspect in several bank robberies.
He wasn't.
Earlier in Friday's hearing, the ATF undercover informant who bought the
guns from Weaver, Kenneth Fadeley, insisted he did not trick Weaver into
making the illegal sale. He said the white separatist offered to "supply me
with shotguns all day long."
Testifying from behind a partition, his voice distorted electronically to
disguise it, Fadeley said Weaver abruptly declared one day in October 1989,
"I would like to go to work for you." At the time, Fadeley, posing as a gun
trader, was infiltrating right-wing extremist groups such as the Aryan
Nations for the ATF.
ANA
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.skinheads
Subject: Skinhead Beaten (ANA)
Date: 18 Sep 1995 13:51:56 -0400
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Subject: ANA NEWS - Student Mistaken for Skinhead Beaten
Reply-To: bf221@freenet.carleton.ca
Status: R
_Student Mistaken For Skinhead Beaten_ (ANA)
A 13-year-old Little Rock, Arkansas, student was beaten last Friday
(9/8/95) by students who thought he was a skinhead. Joshua Martinez shaved
his head in solidarity with his mother who lost her hair from chemotherapy
treatments due to breast cancer. The fight is said to have started when a
student told another group of students that Martinez was a skinhead. The
group later approached Martinez outside the gym when he was alone.
Martinez said that the group "walked up behind me. They were cussing.
They were accusing me of being in the KKK and the skinheads." Martinez
said one student hit him in the back of the head. After the beating,
Martinez had a black eye, cuts and scrapes. One student was suspended for
the incident, and Martinez' parents want him charged with battery.
=====
-ANA-
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Blacks in America
Date: 18 Sep 1995 13:50:28 -0400
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BLACKS IN AMERICA--1992
(Statistical Brief SB/94-12, Issued May 1994)
The Black population in the United States numbered 31.4 million in
March 1992, comprising 13 percent of the Nation's total. This Brief
uses data collected by the March 1992 Current Population Survey (CPS)
to explore the state of Blacks in America. It examines how their
situation changed between March 1980 and 1992, as well as how their
condition compares with that of the White population.
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Median Earnings of Year-Round, Full-Time Workers, by Sex and Race:
1979 and 1991
(1991 dollars)
Men Women
BLACK
1979 $23,260 $17,350
1991 $22,080 $18,720
WHITE
1979 $32,030 $18,830
1991 $30,270 $20,790
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POPULATION GROWTH
Between 1980 and 1992, the Black population increased an average of
1.4 percent per year, twice the annual growth rate of the White
population (0.6 percent). The vast majority of this growth (84
percent) came from natural increase; the remainder came from
immigration.
GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION
Blacks are concentrated in the South. In 1992, more than one-half of
Blacks, but less than one-third of Whites, lived there. In addition,
Blacks were twice as likely as Whites to live in central cities (56
percent compared with 26 percent) and less likely to live in the
suburbs (29 percent versus 51 percent).
EDUCATION
Blacks are closing the high school diploma gap. Back in 1980, 51
percent of Blacks aged 25 and over had earned at least a high school
diploma; the corresponding figure for Whites was 71 percent. Twelve
years later, this gap had closed from 20 percentage points to 13 points
(68 percent versus 81 percent).
However, the proportion of adults aged 25 and over with at least a
bachelor's degree grew by equal percentages over the period for both
groups--from 8 percent to 12 percent for Blacks, from 18 percent to 22
percent for Whites.
A college education, incidentally, does pay off. The median earnings in
1991 of year-round, full-time Black workers aged 25 and over who were
high school graduates only was $18,620. But those with at least a
bachelor's earned $30,910.
FAMILIES
Proportionately fewer families today (both Black and White) contain a
married couple. Such families comprised 56 percent of all Black
families in 1980, but just 47 percent in 1992. The corresponding
decline for Whites was smaller, from 86 percent to 82 percent.
Families maintained by women with no spouse present rose from 40
percent to 46 percent of Black families; the proportion maintained by
men with no spouse rose from 4 percent to 7 percent.
As a result, just 36 percent of Black children and 77 percent of White
children under 18 years old lived with both parents in 1992. The
corresponding 1980 figures were 42 percent and 83 percent.
JOBS
In March 1992, Black men (aged 16 and over) were less likely than White
men to be in the labor force (70 percent compared with 76 percent).
However, the labor force participation rates for Black and White women
(58 percent) did not differ. The unemployment rate for Blacks (14
percent) was more than double that for Whites (6 percent).
Proportionately fewer Black than White men worked in managerial and
professional specialty jobs (14 percent versus 27 percent); relatively
more Black men were operators, fabricators, and laborers (31 percent
versus 19 percent) and held service jobs (19 percent compared with 9
percent). It was more common for Black than for White women to work in
service jobs (28 percent versus 17 percent), less likely for them to
work in managerial and professional specialty (20 percent versus 29
percent) and in technical, sales, and administrative support jobs (38
percent versus 45 percent).
INCOME
The median income for Black families was $21,550 in 1991, 57 percent of
the total for White families. After adjusting for inflation, family
income for both groups was unchanged from 1979. But income has changed
for different family types:
- Black married-couple families saw their real median income rise 8
percent over the period, to $33,310 in 1991. Their income was 80
percent that of comparable White families in 1991, unchanged from
1979.
- Real median income for Black female householder families dropped
10 percent from 1979 to 1991. It stood at $11,410 in 1991, 58
percent that of comparable White families. The ratio was unchanged
from 1979.
EARNINGS
In 1991, the median earnings of year-round, full-time Black male
workers was 73 percent that of comparable White males ($22,080 versus
$30,270). Black female year-round, full-time workers earned 90 percent
that of their White counterparts ($18,720 compared with $20,790). The
Black-to-White earnings ratios didn't change between 1979 and 1991 for
either sex. (See table above.)
POVERTY
Between 1979 and 1991, poverty rates changed little for Black and White
persons and families in general, but rates did change for certain
groups. For instance, Black related children under 18 years old in
families saw their poverty rate rise from 41 percent to 46 percent over
the period. The table below 1991 poverty rates for different groups.
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Percent Below the Poverty Level: 1991
Persons Black White
All persons 33 11
Related children under age 18 in families 46 16
Aged 65 or over 34 10
Worked in 1991 15 6
50-52 weeks 7 3
49 weeks or less 29 12
Families
All families 30 9
with children 39 14
Maintained by a married couple 11 5
with children 12 8
Maintained by a woman, no spouse present 51 28
with children 60 40
Maintained by a man, no spouse present 22 11
with children 32 16
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HOME OWNERSHIP
Black householders were much more likely in 1992 to rent than to own a
home (56 percent versus 42 percent); the opposite was true for Whites -
31 percent were renters, 67 percent were owners.
MORE INFORMATION:
"The Black Population in the United States: March 1992." Current
Population Reports, Series P20-471. For sale by U.S. Government
Printing Office. Stock No. 803-005-00072-9. $7. Extensive information
on the Black population for small geographic entities is available from
the 1990 census. Contact Customer Services (301-763-4100) for more
information.
CONTACTS: Black population - Claudette E. Bennett
301-763-2607
Statistical Briefs - Robert Bernstein
301-763-1584
This Brief is one of a series that presents information of current
policy interest. It may include data from businesses, households, or
other sources. All statistics are subject to sampling variability, as
well as survey design flaws, respondent classification errors, and data
processing mistakes. The Census Bureau has taken steps to minimize
errors, and analytical statements have been tested and meet statistical
standards. However, because of methodological differences, use caution
when comparing these data with data from other sources.
For more information from the report, "The Black Population in the
United States: March 1992," see menu 16.10.1.
Reposted from one of the left-wing liberal E-mags I monitor.
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From: xenith@clam.rutgers.edu (Marcus)
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Subject: Clinton Watch?
Date: 18 Sep 1995 13:54:40 -0400
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WHITE HOUSE MONITORING OF DISSIDENTS ON THE INTERNET
The National Security Agency presumably can monitor
subversive communication on the Internet without leaving any
trace by "sniffing packets" at traffic nodes. For purely
political purposes, however, the White House may be forced to do
the monitoring in-house, which means that they leave traces
everywhere they go.
With just a superficial search for such traces, The
Washington Weekly has uncovered intensive monitoring of
"dissident" Internet sites by the White House.
It turns out that computers from inside the White House have
kept pretty good tabs on information available on Whitewater,
Vince Foster, and Mena at a few key repositories on the World-
Wide Web, a subset of the Internet.
Just three such sites: "The Washington Weekly, "The
Whitewater Scandal Home Page" and "Whitewater & Vince Foster,"
were accessed 128 times by four computers from the Executive
Office of the President between August 28 and August 31. If the
White House is showing a similar interest in other sites on the
World Wide Web, that would amount to a monitoring operation of
considerable magnitude. Tim Brady of the Yahoo! World-Wide Web
index says that his company alone has indexed approximately 725
political sites. That monitoring effort would be nothing,
however, compared to the effort required to follow all anti-
Clinton discussion on the Usenet, another subset of the Internet.
The White House did not respond to an inquiry (attached
below) asking for an explanation and asking whether this
constituted "casual browsing."
Interestingly, the week after the White House snooping of
files, which included a series of articles by J. Orlin Grabbe on
Vince Foster's ties to the NSA, the following little piece
appeared in Newsweek Magazine:
"Conspiracy theorists perked up when Deborah Gorham told Senate
Whitewater investigators in June that her boss, the late deputy
White House counsel Vince Foster, asked her to put two secret
notebooks from the National Security Agency in a White House
safe. The suggestion that Foster dealt with the NSA sparked
feverish speculation on the Internet that he was involved in
espionage. The reality appears more prosaic. The White House
won't give details, but sources say Foster's files dealt with
legal questions about national emergencies...."
Does the White House follow anti-Clinton discussion on Usenet
newsgroups just as closely? [See alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater]
The White House posts press releases to Usenet in collaboration
with the Artificial Intelligence Lab at Massachusetts Institute
of Technology. But MIT System Administrator Bruce Walton says
that the White House does not use the same server for reading
netnews. It would be difficult - although not impossible - to
find the server that the White House uses for reading or receiving
netnews and check for traces on that server.
Readers may be tempted to post a threat to the President on a
newsgroup just to see if they get a visit from the Secret Service
the next day. That experiment is not advisable. It is a criminal
offense. But Usenet just might be a faster conduit for getting
the attention of the administration than the email address that
the White House has published for the president.
Attachment:
THE WASHINGTON WEEKLY
_________________________________________________________________
August 31, 1995
Virginia M. Terzano
White House Office of the Press Secretary
The White House
Dear Ms. Terzano:
It has come to my attention that several dissident sites on
the World Wide Web have been visited by White House computers
this week. Apparently, all information regarding Whitewater,
Foster, and Mena has been transferred to White House computers.
Specifically, the sites,
"Washington Weekly" (http://www.federal.com),
"The Whitewater Scandal Home Page"
(http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~crow/whitewater/)
"Whitewater & Vince Foster"
(http://www.cris.com/~dwheeler/n/whitewater/whitewater-index.html)
have been visited by White House computers ist1.eop.gov,
ist6.eop.gov, ist7.eop.gov, and gatekeeper.eop.gov between August
28 and August 31, and a total of 128 files have been transferred
to those White House computers. For all sites, this constitutes a
significant increase over previous access by White House
computers.
In light of this information, I have the following questions:
(1) Does this constitute "casual browsing" by White House staff, or
is it, in light of the considerable time and effort spent during
regular business hours, part of a monitoring or intelligence operation?
(2) For what purpose is the information transferred to the White House used?
(3) Does the White House keep information from these web sites on file,
and does the White House keep a file on the persons responsible for
these web sites?
(4) Is the April 9 statement by David Lytel of the White House Office of
Science and Technology to Amy Bauer of Copley News Service that the
administration does not monitor anti-Clinton activity on the web still
operative?
Thank you very much for your cooperation in this matter.
Sincerely,
Marvin Lee
The Washington Weekly
Copyright (c) 1995 The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com)
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From: xenith@er7.rutgers.edu (Marcus Aurelius)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.politics.nationalism.black
Date: 19 Sep 1995 02:08:27 -0400
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I fully support creating this newsgroup. It will speed or rather help
speed up the seccessionist movement in this country. Also, it will help
polarize the races even more. Blacks deserve equal time on the net.
You have my support nat turner. Together, white and black nationalists
can plan strategies over the net. Victory can be for all.
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