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From: dvdthomas@aol.com (DvdThomas)
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Subject: Re: Eyewitness Account of Dachau Liberation
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Chuck Ferree wrote:
>At the bottom of
>       each of the many high watch towers, more bodies lay. SS guards 
>who had tried to put up a fight and were killed
>       by the Infantrymen of the 45th. Division.

This is a little at odds with your recent description of how it really
happened.  The guards were lined up against a wall and machine gunned.  So
many that you said it took a half hour to complete.  This description that
you gave is consistent with pictures taken in the camp while this was
going on.

David Thomas
_________________________________________________________

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man,
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began;
That the Dog returns to his Vomit, and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the fire;
And after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

--Kipling

David Thomas
CODOH (http://www.codoh.com/)


From dvdthomas@aol.com Sat Oct 19 10:43:36 PDT 1996
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From: dvdthomas@aol.com (DvdThomas)
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Subject: Re: GERMANS USE JETS TO DROWN OUT JEWISH SCREAMS IN "GAS CHAMBERS"
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>In regards to what the "fence" in question _really_ was, it was a
>"greenbelt" of plants/shrubs etc. erected/planted around the Krema to
>obscure the fact that people were entering L.Keller 2 and not coming out
>alive. 

The really remarkable thing about them is that they were vampire
shrubs--they didn't cast any shadows.
_________________________________________________________

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man,
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began;
That the Dog returns to his Vomit, and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the fire;
And after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

--Kipling

David Thomas
CODOH (http://www.codoh.com/)


From dvdthomas@aol.com Fri Oct 25 09:00:50 PDT 1996
Article: 76822 of alt.revisionism
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Subject: Re: Questions the Blackmore/Belling troll still refuses to answer...
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Mahatma writes:

>... war begins, I believe, in our hearts. And that is  where it must end.

And thus does one acquire a vicious case of heartburn.  Most unsettling.
_________________________________________________________

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man,
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began;
That the Dog returns to his Vomit, and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the fire;
And after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

--Kipling

David Thomas
CODOH (http://www.codoh.com/)


From dvdthomas@aol.com Fri Oct 25 09:00:50 PDT 1996
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This isn't another one of those Rich Graves portfolios is it?
_________________________________________________________

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man,
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began;
That the Dog returns to his Vomit, and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the fire;
And after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

--Kipling

David Thomas
CODOH (http://www.codoh.com/)


From dvdthomas@aol.com Fri Oct 25 09:00:51 PDT 1996
Article: 76869 of alt.revisionism
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From: dvdthomas@aol.com (DvdThomas)
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Subject: Re: Another "Revisionist" Position Shot Down in Flames
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But if you think the museum's expensive, this one involves a _bunch_ more
zeros before the decimal point.......

H.R.1868

Foreign Operations, Export Financing, and Related Programs Appropriations
Act, 1996 (Enrolled Bill (Sent to President)) 

ECONOMIC SUPPORT FUND ASSISTANCE FOR ISRAEL

      SEC. 517. The Congress finds that progress on the peace process in
the Middle East is vitally important to United States security interests
in the region. The Congress recognizes that, in fulfilling its obligations
under the Treaty of Peace Between the Arab Republic of Egypt and the State
of Israel, done at Washington on March 26, 1979, Israel incurred severe
economic burdens. Furthermore, the Congress recognizes that an
economically and militarily secure Israel serves the security interests of
the United States, for a secure Israel is an Israel which has the
incentive and confidence to continue pursuing the peace process.
Therefore, the Congress declares that, subject to the availability of
appropriations, it is the policy and the intention of the United States
that the funds provided in annual  appropriations for the Economic Support
Fund which are allocated to Israel shall not be less than the annual debt
repayment (interest and principal) from Israel to the United States
Government in recognition that such a principle serves United States
interests in the region.

_________________________________________________________

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man,
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began;
That the Dog returns to his Vomit, and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the fire;
And after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

--Kipling

David Thomas
CODOH (http://www.codoh.com/)


From dvdthomas@aol.com Fri Oct 25 15:27:02 PDT 1996
Article: 22358 of soc.history.war.world-war-ii
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Subject: Re: General George S. Patton, jr.
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Patton received his fourth star in April, 1945.

David Thomas
_________________________________________________________

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man,
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began;
That the Dog returns to his Vomit, and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the fire;
And after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

--Kipling

David Thomas
CODOH (http://www.codoh.com/)



From dvdthomas@aol.com Sat Oct 26 00:07:33 PDT 1996
Article: 77111 of alt.revisionism
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From: dvdthomas@aol.com (DvdThomas)
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Subject: Re: Another "Revisionist" Position Shot Down in Flames
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Yale writes:

>Several of the local "revisionists" have claimed that the U.S. 
>government has "financed" the U.S. Holocaust Museum in Washington and, in

>support of this contention, cite 34 U.S.C. 1401.  Apparently none of them
have 
>bothered to read the law to which they refer.

Do the quotes mean they're not revisionists?  Whatever.

>Aside from the operation of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council, 
>the only appropriated funds that can be used by the Museum are for 
>the purchase of insurance required by section 1406 (e)

Indeed.  See below.  That's a hell of a lot of insurance.

************

S.J.RES.63

Departments of Commerce, Justice, and State, the Judiciary, 
and Related Agencies AppropriationsAct, 1997. (Placed in the Senate) 

United States Holocaust Memorial Council

holocaust memorial council

For expenses of the Holocaust Memorial Council, as authorized by 
Public Law 96-388(36 U.S.C. 1401), as amended, $30,707,000, of 
which $1,575,000 for  the Museum's repair and rehabilitation program 
and $1,264,000 for the Museum's exhibitions program shall remain 
available until expended.

******

Let's see--is this the Council's repair and rehabilitation and
exhibitions, or the museum's?  Well, what the hey, it's only peanuts
anyway.  Council, museum, what's the diff?
_________________________________________________________

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man,
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began;
That the Dog returns to his Vomit, and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the fire;
And after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

--Kipling

David Thomas
CODOH (http://www.codoh.com/)


From dvdthomas@aol.com Sun Oct 27 13:59:58 PST 1996
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H. Ostrov wrote:

>>I supported it unreservedly. My attitude was that the
>>Palestinians were vicious animals who were trying to destroy the
civilized
>>and enlightened Jews in Israel.
>
>You know,  Ingrid, I would really question the judgement and reasoning
>ability of someone who held such an ignorant and hate-filled attitude
>towards _any_ group of people.  Wouldn't you?  You wouldn't?  Oh,
>sorry about that!

Have to agree with you on this one.  I have a hard time trusting Shamir,
Sharon, Netanyahu, and a whole bunch of others with similar attitudes.

>>He merely acknowledged the FACT that a Gentile was less than a Jew.
>>Precisely what I had read in the Talmud.
>
>FACT?!   Is this a new acronym I see before me? Fictitious Abstract
>Contradicting Truth.  Oh, right!  I forgot - he "read [it] in the
>Talmud" that he found on the Internet.  Yep.  Must a FACT.

Well, Prof. Israel Shahak sure seems to think that this is how the hard
line Orthodox folks view things.  But what does he know, eh?  For a
graphic illustration, so to speak, of the loving attitude held toward
Palestinians, check out:

http://www.flinet.com/~politics/

Be sure to look for the file called Dental.mov, a charming little 8 second
film clip showing a blindfolded Palestinian teenager on the ground being
shot several times in the face at close range, in dying color.  It's a
little hard to sit through, but it's only 8 seconds long.  The clever file
name refers to the fact that the bullets push a row of teeth into the
center of his open mouth, much the same as Robert Faurisson when he had
his face kicked in by people who apparently didn't agree with his views. 
Maybe you can find something cute to say about it.  I couldn't come up
with any witty repartee because part of my lunch was trying to come up.

David


_________________________________________________________

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man,
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began;
That the Dog returns to his Vomit, and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the fire;
And after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

--Kipling

David Thomas
CODOH (http://www.codoh.com/)



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