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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history
Subject: Holocaust Almanac: David Irving & German Nazis
Summary: Irving's "humour" and close relationship with German Nazis
         exposed in Swedish television documentary.
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Organization: The Nizkor Project, Vancouver Island, CANADA
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Archive/File: holocaust/england/irving irving.06
Last-Modified: 1993/12/18

[Article originally published to UseNet on October 12, 1991, by (Bertil Jonell), Message-ID:
<>, posting from the Chalmers University of
Technology, Gothenburg, Sweden. knm]

  On Wednesday the eighteenth of September 1991, the Swedish National
Television aired a documentary by Michael Schmidt called 'Warheit
Macht Frei'.  I believe that certain parts of it are of interest to
the net and may shed a little light upon the background of some
subjects that have been discussed on several newsgroups lately.

  The text below will be attributed thus: The narrator's lines are
contained within parentheses "()".  Descriptions on what happens on
the screen are contained within less- and more than signs "<>".  Other
attributions by name or function (e.g.  "Interviewer").  My comments
will be contained within brackets "[]".  The text below is from the
most interesting parts of the documentary.  The parts that aren't
included are those that only talk about neo- nazism in Germany.

  Background: Michael Schmidt is a German journalist who managed to
infiltrate and document the neo-nazi movement during the last two
years.  According to background articles in the press when it was sent
he did this by simply asking Michael Ku"hnen if he could document the
neo-nazi movement.  Ku"hnen accepted and since Ku"hnen had accepted
Schmidt, his associates did too.


(Munich, 21st of April 1990.  The day after Hitler's birthday.
Lo"wenbraukeller.  Eight hundred persons have been gathered to hear
what they want to hear.  They are waiting for David Irving, who is
going to say it: Nobody was gassed in Auschwitz in the third reich.
History is revised, forged)

Irving: "The gaschambers one can find as a tourist to Auschwitz were
built by the poles after WWII.  The buildings have been chemically
analyzed and we have published the documents.  This has stirred up so
much dust that our enemies cannot breathe."

(But among the audience are guests that throw a different light over
this seemingly respectable gathering.)

(A living legend, a hero among the neo-nazis of today, General Otto
Ernst Remer.  He was adviser to the former leader of Egypt, Gamal
Abdel Nasser, he sold German weapons to Syria, but above all, General
Otto Ernst Remer was the man that tracked down the persons who on the
20th of July 1944 conspired to assassinate Hitler.  As a reward he was
appointed commander of Hitler's personal guard.)

Narrator of the Newsreel: "Major Remer, commander of the guard
battalion "Berlin", distinguished himself during the squashing of a
small, hostile to the nation, honourless clique and was immediately
promoted to Colonel by the Fu"hrer."

Remer talking to the troops: "Today we are thankfully political

Remer: "But then Hitler said: "I'm still alive, a small clique of
officers is responsible, but now we have caught the leading saboteurs.
We shall deal with this plague expediently, if necessary with brutal

Schmidt: "You have said that you regarded Hitler as a democrat?"

Remer: "Basically, he was a democrat.  When I now look back I can say
that I've never seen anyone of Hitler's calibre.  I see it before me
still.  It was an important man, the kind that is only born once in a
hundred years.  However history is warped, Hitler is a lasting factor
in German history."

[Brunner is one of the most notorious Nazi war criminals still at
large.  He lives in Damascus and the Syrian government has refused to
extradite him to Germany or France.  In an telephone interview 1987,
he told the Chicago Sun-Times that he regretted nothing of what he had
done, that he would do it again, and that all Jews "deserved to die
because they were the devil's agents and human garbage."]

(The Institute of Historical Review in California has as its goal to
whitewash Hitler and deny the hideous crimes of Nazism.  Remer is one
of their international contacts and Remer himself is very proud of his
contacts around the world.)

Remer: "I have had a lot of contacts and happen to know a lot of
people.  This has always been current to me, but I'm not stupid.  I
saw that one couldn't even talk about it - but then suddenly, over
night, all changed.  Perspectives are now opening that are too large
to see.  But the world cannot continue being divided.  Americans and
Russians cannot split the cake.  Nobody can accuse me of being a
communist or anything like that.  And for nationalsocialism...  I
never was a member of the party.  I have always been independent and
had my own thoughts."

(And he spreads his thoughts to people he claims not to know...)

Remer on video: "In your hard political struggle, harder yet than
ours, you must keep your mind on becoming a disciplined, responsible,
and immovable circle of comrades!  An Elite among the new German

(He doesn't want to speak about todays neo-nazis, but this video shows
clearly that he is one of them)

The Swedish Television added a translation of what they sing:
"Germany, Germany, everywhere!  The Reich shall again be reborn!"

Gathering ends with: "Long live today's NationalSocialist movement in
Germany.  Sieg Heil!  Sieg Heil!  Sieg Heil!"

(Back to Munich.  The main speaker, David Irving, is watching over the
proceedings.  The Institute for Historical Review is there to document
and preserve for posterity those that absolve Nazi-Germany from all
guilt, and claim that any warcrimes never happened, those that want to
rewrite history, the so called "Revisionists".  They claim that there
never were any gaschambers and that the holocaust of the Jews never

Institute for Historical Review representative: "We do video
productions for the Institute when we have conferences"

Speaker on conference: "We welcome Manfred Roeder, Michael Ku"hnen and
their group of youths."

(A convicted terrorist and a neo-nazi is welcomed, but this man wants
to avoid all publicity.)  

(His face looked familiar but where from?  He has some aquarelles with
him and allows them to be filmed, but he himself wants to avoid the

(There are few pictures of this man, but this time he is caught unawares)

Schmidt: "Where do you come from?"

Man: "Me? From.... London."

Schmidt: "From London?"

Man: "Mmm"

Schmidt: "So, which organization.."

Man cuts him off: "I'm not connected with any organization.  I
just....  I'm sort of a collector."

Schmidt: "So you are a collector?"

Man: "I collect... I'm a collector of books and various things."

Schmidt: "May I ask your name?"

Man: "Yeah, My name is Michael...."

Schmidt: "Michael?"

Man: ".....Carter"

Schmidt: "Michael Carter?"

("Mr.  Carter's" real name is Anthony Hancock and he is a bookprinter.
He prints books for the National Front and supplies the whole world
with nazi propaganda.  Now he is awaiting trial for forgeries and
cheque-frauds in the millions of pounds.)

("Did Six Million Really Die?", Hate literature from Hancock's
printing shop.)

Man (Hancock): "I'm just a friend of a friend, you know.  And I
collect antiquarian books.  Books on WWII and pre-war.  I'm just a
general collector."

Schmidt: "So you had nothing to do with the National Front?"

Hancock: "No, no.  I'm just an independent sort of collector here for
a weekend, a nice time in Munich and all that, you know."

("I'm a Jackass who always believes what I am told!!" The holocaust of
the Jews is ridiculed and mocked.  This is nothing new.)

(Hamburg 1978.  Christian Worch, Ku"hnens right hand is overseeing the

(Munich again: Another of Ku"hnens comrades, Evald Althan, is giving
orders.  Behind him the chief of security, the same Christian Worch.
He also organized a conference with Irving in northern Germany.  Here
is also the skinhead leader of Riehfeldt, Thomas Heinkel.  Three top
figures in the neo-nazi movement.  All of them attending to Irving.)

Worch: "That Ku"hnen and I have intensive political contacts is common
knowledge.  I wrote a letter to Irving some time ago and told him that
he needn't worry that it could be used against him."

[LePens Fronte National?]

(This is a small town called Haguenau in France.  The pictures were
taken by a neo-nazi and was never intended for publication.  The so
called Revisionists are gathered.)

Faurisson: "I'm surprised to find my special friend Ernst Zu"ndel
here.  If I had known about it, I would have brought him a present."

(Robert Faurisson, professor in literature in Lyon.  Claims to
sympathise with the left.  1991 sentenced to a fine of 100,000 francs
for having publicly denied the nazi crimes against humanity.  Behind
him Ernst Zu"ndel.  German- Canadian.  Sentenced to prison in Canada
1988 for "spreading false information".  He spread pamphlets and books
printed at Anthony Hancock in England.  Some time ago he commissioned
a report that scientifically tries to prove that the gaschambers in
Auschwitz never could have existed.)

Zu"ndel: "Why should we respectable Germans wallow in this pigsty of
diabolic and mean lies that this Jewish rabble have distributed?"

[Zu"ndel uses the word 'Judenpack'.]

(Christian Worch is also in Haguenau.  Also there, of course, is the
next speaker, David Irving, the historian.)

Irving: "Then we have the one-man gaschamber.  Carried by two German
privates looking for lone jews in the polish countryside."

Irving continues: "The one-man gaschamber looked like a sedan-chair,
camouflaged as a telephone booth.  Now, how did one fool the poor
victim to enter this gaschamber?  A telephone bell was rung inside and
the privates said: I think it is for you!"

[Cut out are details on neo-nazi military training, neo-nazi contacts
with old nazis, neo-nazi attempts at infiltrating the EC-parliament,
and a Swedish neo-nazi group suspected of stealing police weapons to
use in a "racial war".]

(Common to all these organizations is that they spread their
propaganda through local radio.  The most famous was "Radio Islam",
Publisher: Achmed Rami, formerly Moroccan officer, formerly Swedish
convict that nowadays prefers to look like a highly educated,
controversial, serious researcher in political science, but reveals
himself the same second he is challenged.)

Rami: "I am a revisionist and I'm happy to be a revisionist."

Schmidt: "But you claim that you don't have any contacts with

Rami: "No"

Schmidt: "Do you know the name Ernst Zu"ndel?"

Rami: "Yes.  I have never met him.  When I was in Munich he was
arrested, I don't met him, Never.  But I respect him."


Schmidt: "He is a neo-nazi and an anti-semite.  He talks about

Rami: "Are you sure?"

Schmidt: "Do you understand what I mean?"

Rami: "No"

Rami: "Can I ask you... Are you Jewish?"

Schmidt: "No"

[I translates what Rami says directly from Swedish to English, and add
what the translator tells Schmidt when there is a difference]

Rami: "To say that the gaschambers never existed, that is regarded as
a crime."

Schmidt: "But they existed. I have seen them. I have been there."

Rami: Tell him: I must have the right to tell him that he is wrong.
He hasn't seen anything.  He is just lying.  But I am not punishing
him for that."

Translator to Schmidt: "I must have the right to say: You are a liar
when you say what you say, without being punished."

Schmidt: "Oh, you won't be punished."

Rami: "I look upon him not as a...  really..., but as a victim of
brain- washing."


Translator to Schmidt: "He looks upon you as a victim of

Rami: "And I think we should start a deprogramming institution for the
victims of Judaism."

(It was the autumn of 1990.  Kuwait was occupied by Iraq.  The US sent
troops to Saudi.  The world held it's breath.  This is a draft for an
agreement between the government of Iraq and the Anti-Zionist Legion
in Germany, led by Lieutenant Michael Ku"hnen.  Here prerequisites are
listed for putting an armed volunteer corps of one hundred neo-nazi
soldiers at the service of Iraq, to "fight the zionist, US-
imperialist aggression." Then a hundred more are to follow from Great
Britain and the USA.  Prior to transport to Iraq they are to gather in
Copenhagen or Stockholm.)

[Demonstration in favour of Rudolph Hess shown.  The ex-East German
neo-nazis meet their colleagues from ex-West Germany for the first

("Warheit Macht Frei".  During more than two years, Michael Schmidt
was confronted with their truths.  But finally he found an old
SS-officer, in Denmark.  One of them, connected to the NSDAP-AO and
the Revisionists.  Wanted in Germany.  He had worked in Auschwitz and
written a book about it.  He admitted that their truths were just
fantasies: Thies Christophersen.)

[NSDAP-AO, NSDAP was the old original German Nazi party.  AO means
Exile Organization.  Headquartered in Lincoln, Nebraska and headed by
Gary Lauck.  The part of the documentary that exclusively is about the
neo-nazis talks about it several times.]

Schmidt: "Were people gassed to death or not?"

Christophersen: "I didn't write anything about that in my report."

(In the report Auschwitz is described rather as a summercamp than an
extermination camp.)

Schmidt: "What do you think about David Irving?"

Christophersen: "He is attacked because he is British.  We dislike
that he talks about German atrocities, even if they happened.  But I'm
partial, of course."

(This book has become the bible of those who want to deny the truth.
But Christophersen admits that he knowingly warped the truth.  The
book doesn't mention any gaschambers so therefore they don't exist,
the argument goes.)

Christophersen: "I want to defend us, but I can't deny what we really
did.  No defender brings forth that which is damaging to his cause.
But I don't care.  It would mean betraying my friends if I retracted
anything now."


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