Path: hub.org!hub.org!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!hekyl.ab.tac.net!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news1.telusplanet.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Hilary OstrovNewsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Irving in Interpolationland - Again Organization: myssiwyg* Reply-To: hostrov@telus.net Message-ID: <75i92tcsh8r7tm4q22ufkeu8758lo7bju9@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 84 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:12:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.143.1 X-Trace: news1.telusplanet.net 975492723 216.232.143.1 (Wed, 29 Nov 2000 03:12:03 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 03:12:03 MST Xref: hub.org alt.revisionism:830593 The following is an excerpt from an item on Irving's website. It's from Adam Bresnick's review of _Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why Do They Say It?_ by Michael Shermer and Alex Grobman. There was also a shorter review - also by Bresnick - of Finkelstein's book. Both appeared in the LA Times on November 5 (in the Home Edition, Book Review Section P. 10, - but Irving didn't mention this): [Watch for the **asterisked** sentence!] Michael Shermer and Alex Grobman's "Denying History" shows in convincing detail how Holocaust deniers wrest sinister untruths from the documentary evidence of the Nazi extermination campaign against the Jews. Holocaust denial propounds three phony claims: that the number of Jews who perished in the camps was far less than the currently accepted 6 million, that there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau and that Hitler did not intentionally set out to exterminate European Jewry. Against these claims, Shermer and Grobman's book affirms that the Holocaust, which they define as "the systematic bureaucratically administered destruction by the Nazis and their collaborators during the Second World War of an estimated six million Jews based on racial ideology," is a demonstrable historical event. **The book presents the controversies of Holocaust denial as well as the leading figures in the movement, like David Irving and Robert Faurisson (left, speaking in 1991; right after being attacked by Jewish dissenters in 1989), and it marshals a formidable amount of empirical evidence for Hitler's Final Solution.** Equally important, Shermer and Grobman offer an account of history as "practical hermeneutics" for, as they see it, any historian worthy of the name must test his theories against the evidence and interpretations at hand to produce more and more accurate accounts of past events. In addition to hoisting Holocaust deniers on their own petard, Shermer and Grobman defend the honor of historiography from the depredations of relativism.http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/Finkelstein/ShermerBook.html I sure wish Irving had posted it sooner, because one could more readily access the *real* thing. Now, of course one has to pay $2.00 to discover - or confirm - that he's doctored the article. Here's how the sentence I've marked above [**] reads in the original:The book presents the controversies of Holocaust denial as well as the leading figures in the movement, like David Irving and Robert Faurisson, and it marshals a formidable amount of empirical evidence for Hitler's Final Solution.Irving has five images accompanying the text - without any notation that they were added by him. The LA Times article contained only one:PHOTO: 14th Street entrance to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington D.C.; from "The Holocaust Museum in Washington" by Jeshajahu Weinberg and Rina Elieli (Rizzoli: 200 pp., $45)Needless to say, none of Irving's five images remotely resembled the above description. I don't know whether or not Irving actually received permission from the LA Times to reproduce their copyrighted material. Perhaps he overlooked: "Copyright 2000 Los Angeles Times. May not be reproduced or retransmitted without permission". He is, after all, a "real historian" [tm] who seems to excel at oversights. But I'd be willing to bet that such permission - even if obtained - did not include the right to doctor the text. "Revisionist scholarship" at its finest, folks. hro ===================== Hilary Ostrov E-mail: hostrov@telus.net WWW: http://www3.telus.net/myssiwyg/ The Nizkor Project http://www.nizkor.org/
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