From cbh9952@jackson.freenet.org Wed Aug 30 11:33:48 PDT 1995
Article: 5319 of alt.revisionism
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Subject: Welcome to ZUNDELsite!
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From: cbh9952@jackson.freenet.org (Charles B. Hickerson)
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                              "The Zundelsite"

          "In a Struggle to Free Us from The Lie of the Century!"

          "Im offenen Kampf gegen die Lüge des Jahrhunderts!"

           
           "http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/ez-media.jpg" 

  Ernst Zundel: "I am no gun-toting warrior!  I am a militant pacifist!"

   "Ich bin kein bewaffneter Krieger, sondern ein militanter Pazifist!"


        The Zundel site is dedicated to the sacred belief held by all 
independentpeople everywhere that a truly democratic society does not 
need to fear, suppress and persecute an alternate view of history, 
culture, race, religion or politics.  If it does, it is no longer 
democratic If it does, an alert citizenry will know and act accordingly 
to circumvent suppression.  
        We believe that the First Amendment of the Constitution and the 
Bill of Rights of the United States of America and Canada's Charter of 
Rights and Freedoms, especially Section 2 B, guarantees us these 
democratic rights and freedoms - freedom of speech, freedom of thought 
and, most importantly, true freedom to inform across all boundaries and 
unimpeded by nefarious might and special interest lobby groups. 
        In truly democratic societies, a citizen is dutibound to inform 
himself and others of a threat to the public welfare and to act in 
defense of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  That is what we 
are doing.  We believe in truth, freedom, fairness and justice for all - 
not just for the privileged, politically correct and well-connected 
wealthy few.  
        We believe that Artikel 19 of the United Nations Charter on 
Human Rights encourages us to inform ourselves and others across state 
lines and frontiers by all means possible when abuses, wrongdoings 
and criminal acts occur. 
       The United Nations Declaration of Human Rights reads as follows:
"Everyone has the right of freedom of opinion and expression; this right 
includes freedom to hold opinion without interference and to seek, 
receive and impart information and ideas through any media and 
regardless of frontiers."
       We dedicate the Zundelsite to the memory of Reinhold Elstner
1920 -1995, a modern German martyr for Truth, Freedom, Fairness 
and Justice.
       On the eve of April 25, 1995, Reinhold Elstner, a retired 75-
year-old chemist-engineer and Wehrmacht veteran, walked up the steps
to the Feldherrnhallle- Germany's "Hall of Heroes" - doused him-
self with a flammable liquid and set himself on fire.  Attempts by 
bystanders to rescue him were futile.  Twelve hours later Reinhold 
Elstner was dead.  
       Why did Reinhold Elstner take his life in this dramatic way?  
Because he could no longer  bear his people's incessant victimization 
and the world's swinish hypocricy about the "liberation celebrations" 
then going on in Germany and all around the world.  
       Reinhold Elstner knew - as many people do today - that Germany 
was not "liberated" in 1945.  It was bombed into the stone age, con-
quered at bayonet point, raped, tortured, mutilated and brutally sub-
dued both mentally and physically. Germany is still an Occupation 
Government today - controlled and terrorized by alien interests, 
suppression, treason and subversion.  Test it with one nine-letter 
word.  Say that you " . . . doubt the Holocaust."  
       In Germany and, for that matter, most of Europe, you are allow-
ed to say you ". . .  doubt the Holy Ghost" but you will go to prison 
for ". . . questioning the Holocaust." Who benefits from government-
imposed religion? 
       In a farewell letter he left to the world, Reinhold Elstner 
wrote the following:
       "Fifty years of unrelenting smear campaigns and demonization 
of an entire people are enough.  Fifty years of incessant insults 
hurled at German war veterans are enough. At the age of 75, not 
much is left for me to do, but perhaps through my act of self-
immolation, I can give a clarion call and set one visible example 
of reflection.  If even one single German wakes up and finds his way 
back to the truth, my self-sacrifice will not have been in vain."
       "50 Jahre unendlicher Verleumdung und Verteufelung eines 
ganzen Volkes sind genug. Jahre ungeheuerlicher Beleidigung deutsch-
er Soldaten sind genug. Mit meinen 75 Jahren kann ich nicht mehr viel 
tun, aber doch soviel, daß ich mit meinem Flammentode als Fanal 
ein sichtbares Zeichen der Besinnung setzen will. Und wenn auch nur 
ein Deutscher zur Besinnung kommt und den Weg zur Wahrheit findet, 
dann war mein Opfer nicht vergebens".
        Reinhold Elstner's death won't be in vain.  Toward that end, 
people everywhere who are of German background - many who have never 
lived in Germany and were not even born there, but who still have some 
will and freedom left to fight against injustice, lies and slander- 
will do their best to let all fair and forthright people  know to the 
farthest corner of the planet why this man lived and loved, why he 
fought during World War II - and why he chose to die.  
         As corny as it sounds today against that vast and vulgar flood 
of lies in music, books, film, television and endless polemical speeches  
portraying Germans everywhere as sadists, murderers and scum, it is 
simply not historically correct to claim that this is how a whole gen-
eration of Germans behaved in the most desperately fought war of all 
times. It is still war-time propaganda that serves to keep an oligarchy's 
filthy interests in power - 50 years after the war!  
         Reinhold Elstner's generation was an honorable, dedicated 
people who believed in simple but time-tested values: hard work, honesty, 
chivalry, loyalty, truthfulness and sacrifice.  There was a time when 
these were the accepted values of most Americans, Englishmen, Frenchmen 
and Germans alike.  That was the clean, sane world that once belonged to 
us to bequeath to our future generations.
        As we look at our planet now, we know this is no longer true.  
This once-shared heritage of all white people everywhere that built 
the finest civilization in the history of man is under vicious, incess-
ant  assault. 
        This is not accidental.  There are dark forces in this world 
whose powers many people sense on a vicarious level but are afraid to 
call by name.  Most people fear a label more than they fear robbery or 
even murder.  
        There are smear words in our world more monstrous and more 
sinister than guns have ever been.  They do not kill - they paralyze.  
They stop not only deed but thought.  They're weapons of vast special 
interests. We are talking systematic psychological warfare.  
        Unless we clearly recognize the true dimensions of this warfare 
- aimed at our ethnic nature and our heritage - our children will not 
have a world in which to practice hard work, honesty, chivalry, loyalty, 
truthfulness and sacrifice.  
        We choose to fight against the travesties imposed by special 
interest groups.  We choose to live by words and values we still hold 
absolute, expressed by patriotic thinkers of the past:"If a man is for-
tunate, he will, before he dies, gather up as much as he can of his 
civilized heritage and transmit it to his children."  (Will Durant.)

        "To be persuasive, we must be believable. To be believable, 
we must be credible.  To be credible, we must be truthful."  (Edward 
R. Murrow)
        "The best test of truth is the power of the thought to get 
itself accepted in the competition of the market."  (Oliver Wendell 
Holmes, Jr.)
        The Zundelsite has a clear mission.  We will stand up and let 
ourselves be counted.  We will no longer cringe - "Wir machen nicht 
kaum laenger den Buckel krumm!"
        Our aim will be to honor men like Reinhold Elstner.  We will 
give meaning to his sacrifice.  He will become immortal.We will assure 
through our brand of dedication to hard work, truth, freedom, fairness 
and justice that the ideas and ideals  - ideas and ideals for which 
yet one more German soldier chose to die - of our forefathers will not 
be cheapend and eroded by the abnormal lies, distortions, defamations 
and profanities - in short, the grotesque "history" the military 
conquerors of Germany decided we must swallow.  The truth will set us 
free!
        We will ask our readers everywhere to be our eyes and ears in 
their respective cities, towns and countries.  We are hoping to enroll 
you as an active intellectual - one of the Zundel Internet Freedom 
Fighters.  



E-Mail:  ezundel@cts.com.

                            Ernst Zundel
                            206 Carlton Street
                            Toronto, ONT., Canada 
                            M5A 2L1

                            Telephone:  416-922-9850

                   http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/

      We do not recruit; we convince.  Truth has no need of coercion.  
      We invite your support and submissions.





        



From cbh9952@jackson.freenet.org Wed Aug 30 13:08:26 PDT 1995
Article: 57164 of soc.culture.german
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Subject: GERMAN FREEDOM WEB SITE
Message-ID: <1995Aug30.030803.57621@msuvx2.memphis.edu>
From: cbh9952@jackson.freenet.org (Charles B. Hickerson)
Date: 30 Aug 95 03:08:03 -0500
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                              "The Zundelsite"

          "In a Struggle to Free Us from The Lie of the Century!"

          "Im offenen Kampf gegen die Lüge des Jahrhunderts!"

           
           "http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/ez-media.jpg" 

  Ernst Zundel: "I am no gun-toting warrior!  I am a militant pacifist!"

   "Ich bin kein bewaffneter Krieger, sondern ein militanter Pazifist!"


        The Zundel site is dedicated to the sacred belief held by all 
independentpeople everywhere that a truly democratic society does not 
need to fear, suppress and persecute an alternate view of history, 
culture, race, religion or politics.  If it does, it is no longer 
democratic If it does, an alert citizenry will know and act accordingly 
to circumvent suppression.  
        We believe that the First Amendment of the Constitution and the 
Bill of Rights of the United States of America and Canada's Charter of 
Rights and Freedoms, especially Section 2 B, guarantees us these 
democratic rights and freedoms - freedom of speech, freedom of thought 
and, most importantly, true freedom to inform across all boundaries and 
unimpeded by nefarious might and special interest lobby groups. 
        In truly democratic societies, a citizen is dutibound to inform 
himself and others of a threat to the public welfare and to act in 
defense of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  That is what we 
are doing.  We believe in truth, freedom, fairness and justice for all - 
not just for the privileged, politically correct and well-connected 
wealthy few.  
        We believe that Artikel 19 of the United Nations Charter on 
Human Rights encourages us to inform ourselves and others across state 
lines and frontiers by all means possible when abuses, wrongdoings 
and criminal acts occur. 
       The United Nations Declaration of Human Rights reads as follows:
"Everyone has the right of freedom of opinion and expression; this right 
includes freedom to hold opinion without interference and to seek, 
receive and impart information and ideas through any media and 
regardless of frontiers."
       We dedicate the Zundelsite to the memory of Reinhold Elstner
1920 -1995, a modern German martyr for Truth, Freedom, Fairness 
and Justice.
       On the eve of April 25, 1995, Reinhold Elstner, a retired 75-
year-old chemist-engineer and Wehrmacht veteran, walked up the steps
to the Feldherrnhallle- Germany's "Hall of Heroes" - doused him-
self with a flammable liquid and set himself on fire.  Attempts by 
bystanders to rescue him were futile.  Twelve hours later Reinhold 
Elstner was dead.  
       Why did Reinhold Elstner take his life in this dramatic way?  
Because he could no longer  bear his people's incessant victimization 
and the world's swinish hypocricy about the "liberation celebrations" 
then going on in Germany and all around the world.  
       Reinhold Elstner knew - as many people do today - that Germany 
was not "liberated" in 1945.  It was bombed into the stone age, con-
quered at bayonet point, raped, tortured, mutilated and brutally sub-
dued both mentally and physically. Germany is still an Occupation 
Government today - controlled and terrorized by alien interests, 
suppression, treason and subversion.  Test it with one nine-letter 
word.  Say that you " . . . doubt the Holocaust."  
       In Germany and, for that matter, most of Europe, you are allow-
ed to say you ". . .  doubt the Holy Ghost" but you will go to prison 
for ". . . questioning the Holocaust." Who benefits from government-
imposed religion? 
       In a farewell letter he left to the world, Reinhold Elstner 
wrote the following:
       "Fifty years of unrelenting smear campaigns and demonization 
of an entire people are enough.  Fifty years of incessant insults 
hurled at German war veterans are enough. At the age of 75, not 
much is left for me to do, but perhaps through my act of self-
immolation, I can give a clarion call and set one visible example 
of reflection.  If even one single German wakes up and finds his way 
back to the truth, my self-sacrifice will not have been in vain."
       "50 Jahre unendlicher Verleumdung und Verteufelung eines 
ganzen Volkes sind genug. Jahre ungeheuerlicher Beleidigung deutsch-
er Soldaten sind genug. Mit meinen 75 Jahren kann ich nicht mehr viel 
tun, aber doch soviel, daß ich mit meinem Flammentode als Fanal 
ein sichtbares Zeichen der Besinnung setzen will. Und wenn auch nur 
ein Deutscher zur Besinnung kommt und den Weg zur Wahrheit findet, 
dann war mein Opfer nicht vergebens".
        Reinhold Elstner's death won't be in vain.  Toward that end, 
people everywhere who are of German background - many who have never 
lived in Germany and were not even born there, but who still have some 
will and freedom left to fight against injustice, lies and slander- 
will do their best to let all fair and forthright people  know to the 
farthest corner of the planet why this man lived and loved, why he 
fought during World War II - and why he chose to die.  
         As corny as it sounds today against that vast and vulgar flood 
of lies in music, books, film, television and endless polemical speeches  
portraying Germans everywhere as sadists, murderers and scum, it is 
simply not historically correct to claim that this is how a whole gen-
eration of Germans behaved in the most desperately fought war of all 
times. It is still war-time propaganda that serves to keep an oligarchy's 
filthy interests in power - 50 years after the war!  
         Reinhold Elstner's generation was an honorable, dedicated 
people who believed in simple but time-tested values: hard work, honesty, 
chivalry, loyalty, truthfulness and sacrifice.  There was a time when 
these were the accepted values of most Americans, Englishmen, Frenchmen 
and Germans alike.  That was the clean, sane world that once belonged to 
us to bequeath to our future generations.
        As we look at our planet now, we know this is no longer true.  
This once-shared heritage of all white people everywhere that built 
the finest civilization in the history of man is under vicious, incess-
ant  assault. 
        This is not accidental.  There are dark forces in this world 
whose powers many people sense on a vicarious level but are afraid to 
call by name.  Most people fear a label more than they fear robbery or 
even murder.  
        There are smear words in our world more monstrous and more 
sinister than guns have ever been.  They do not kill - they paralyze.  
They stop not only deed but thought.  They're weapons of vast special 
interests. We are talking systematic psychological warfare.  
        Unless we clearly recognize the true dimensions of this warfare 
- aimed at our ethnic nature and our heritage - our children will not 
have a world in which to practice hard work, honesty, chivalry, loyalty, 
truthfulness and sacrifice.  
        We choose to fight against the travesties imposed by special 
interest groups.  We choose to live by words and values we still hold 
absolute, expressed by patriotic thinkers of the past:"If a man is for-
tunate, he will, before he dies, gather up as much as he can of his 
civilized heritage and transmit it to his children."  (Will Durant.)

        "To be persuasive, we must be believable. To be believable, 
we must be credible.  To be credible, we must be truthful."  (Edward 
R. Murrow)
        "The best test of truth is the power of the thought to get 
itself accepted in the competition of the market."  (Oliver Wendell 
Holmes, Jr.)
        The Zundelsite has a clear mission.  We will stand up and let 
ourselves be counted.  We will no longer cringe - "Wir machen nicht 
kaum laenger den Buckel krumm!"
        Our aim will be to honor men like Reinhold Elstner.  We will 
give meaning to his sacrifice.  He will become immortal.We will assure 
through our brand of dedication to hard work, truth, freedom, fairness 
and justice that the ideas and ideals  - ideas and ideals for which 
yet one more German soldier chose to die - of our forefathers will not 
be cheapend and eroded by the abnormal lies, distortions, defamations 
and profanities - in short, the grotesque "history" the military 
conquerors of Germany decided we must swallow.  The truth will set us 
free!
        We will ask our readers everywhere to be our eyes and ears in 
their respective cities, towns and countries.  We are hoping to enroll 
you as an active intellectual - one of the Zundel Internet Freedom 
Fighters.  



E-Mail:  ezundel@cts.com.

                            Ernst Zundel
                            206 Carlton Street
                            Toronto, ONT., Canada 
                            M5A 2L1

                            Telephone:  416-922-9850

                   http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/

      We do not recruit; we convince.  Truth has no need of coercion.  
      We invite your support and submissions.





        

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