From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 7 20:46:42 PDT 1995 Article: 30395 of alt.revisionism Path: news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: c3w Hiroshima Holocaust History Revisionism Questions Date: 7 Aug 1995 15:25:19 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 62 Message-ID: <405b8v$bbh@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou7-27.ix.netcom.com Can anyone explain to a cat3wog (Ordinary American-American) the current History Revisionism going on concerning the charges that dropping 'the bomb' on the Japanese was a racist war crime? The only difference I can see between conventional bombing and atom bombing is the technology as only one plane is necessary instead of several hundred planes. Some are beginning to refer to the event as the "Hiroshima Holocaust" (apparently includes Nagasaki). The (Jewish) Holocaust is obviously another historical controversy. Jewish History refers to other holocausts (Dubnov & Others) 1820, 1880, 1919 and, of course, *the* Holocaust 1939-1945. 'The Holocaust' is said to be historically unique because 6,000,000 Jews were exterminated 'scientifically' in a special high capacity extermination factory 'designed solely to cleanse Europe of Jews'. One Hiroshima Holocaust Revisionism side says: The dropping of the atom bomb was as racist (Yellow People) - as was the Jewish Holocaust. Yet two facts do not support this: One criteria for selecting targets the scientists wanted was an unbombed city - to determine the results of the bomb exclusive of all other damage. (Apparently all German cities had already been conventionally bombed (includes fire-bombing - a form of holocaust, i.e. death by burning). And two: was the bomb ready before the Germans surrendered? These two facts (perhaps there are others) would disprove (or cast doubt) on the racist charge Liberal Revisionist Historians make. For the longest time (in my memory) we were told 4,000,000 Jews were exterminated at the Auschwitz Extermination Factory - now the history revisionists are saying that the 4,000,000 Jews killed was a lie? Most ordinary Americans do not have access to the Internet which contain the most up-to-date history revisionism, prompting some questions (as the vast majority of Americans get their history from TV - a few from old books): If a common history is necessary to unite people what does four different versions of history do? Peter Jennings said Conservative historians lied: The Japanese were not warned for ten days in advance of the bombing. David Brinkly (apparently quoting Jeanne Kirkpatrick) said this new revisionist history is: "Hate America First" History? Most know that there is no such thing as a conspiracy - so there must be another explanation. Are Liberal revisionist history professors continually revising History to sell more books? Or, do they just want a chance at fame? Is it political: Conservative vs. Liberals? One can assume that the Jewish Holocaust revisionism is Racial, Religious, International v. Nationalism, Political, etc. But what is the revision of Truman's (a Liberal Democrat) decision to drop the bomb - and Roosevelt's (a Liberal Democrat) decision to build it. Aren't the Hiroshima revisionist historians mostly Liberals? T. Maczuga-Kaus, cat3wog 1st generation American-American Republic of Texas Multicultural & Diversity capital of the World Celebrating Our Differences From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 9 05:13:43 PDT 1995 Article: 30612 of alt.revisionism Path: news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.skinheads,alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.discrimination Subject: Re: What Does Racial Superiority Mean? Date: 9 Aug 1995 13:29:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 30 Message-ID: <40ad77$nit@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> References: <3utdvf$gci@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca><3uv5v8$28v@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <3vbs93$jmo@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <3vbvd7$kpv@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <3vdrlk$6vl@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <3ve3pb$j98@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <3vghep$n7u@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <3vgtc0$do1@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <3vjore$3vd@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <3vukb6$2jo@jobes.sierra.net> <408s5a$jjv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou8-27.ix.netcom.com Xref: news.island.net alt.revisionism:30612 alt.skinheads:25084 alt.politics.white-power:11699 alt.politics.nationalism.white:12124 alt.discrimination:33400 Frank wrote: [much snipped] >My motive in asking this question, as always, is >to get people to think. There is a lot more of you >than there is of me; so rather than I telling you >what to think, I'll let you all tell me. > >Frank > In scientific literature, French racial supremacist Joseph Arthur defined it as a cultural race - the (Aryans) - in 1848. Then PhD, PhD, PhD, Louis Armand defined French racial supremacy as purity of white blood - limited only to the Hanover, Paris, London triangle - to exclude impure Prussians after the 1870 War. H.G. Wells defined racial supremacy for WASPs "English Nordic Supermen" in 1920 after the French performed badly in the Great War. Then we all know who picked up Arnold's, Armand's & Well's racial supremacy theme in 1939. There is still evidence of Arnold's racial supremacy in a subcurrent of WASP-Americans in the Confederate South private educational system. T. Kaus From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 9 16:57:37 PDT 1995 Article: 12124 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.skinheads,alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.discrimination Subject: Re: What Does Racial Superiority Mean? Date: 9 Aug 1995 13:29:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 30 Message-ID: <40ad77$nit@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> References: <3utdvf$gci@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> <3uv5v8$28v@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <3vbs93$jmo@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <3vbvd7$kpv@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <3vdrlk$6vl@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <3ve3pb$j98@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <3vghep$n7u@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <3vgtc0$do1@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <3vjore$3vd@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <3vukb6$2jo@jobes.sierra.net> <408s5a$jjv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou8-27.ix.netcom.com Xref: news.island.net alt.revisionism:30612 alt.skinheads:25084 alt.politics.white-power:11699 alt.politics.nationalism.white:12124 alt.discrimination:33400 Frank wrote: [much snipped] >My motive in asking this question, as always, is >to get people to think. There is a lot more of you >than there is of me; so rather than I telling you >what to think, I'll let you all tell me. > >Frank > In scientific literature, French racial supremacist Joseph Arthur defined it as a cultural race - the (Aryans) - in 1848. Then PhD, PhD, PhD, Louis Armand defined French racial supremacy as purity of white blood - limited only to the Hanover, Paris, London triangle - to exclude impure Prussians after the 1870 War. H.G. Wells defined racial supremacy for WASPs "English Nordic Supermen" in 1920 after the French performed badly in the Great War. Then we all know who picked up Arnold's, Armand's & Well's racial supremacy theme in 1939. There is still evidence of Arnold's racial supremacy in a subcurrent of WASP-Americans in the Confederate South private educational system. T. Kaus From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 16 22:20:34 PDT 1995 Article: 31591 of alt.revisionism Path: news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history Subject: c3w Jewish Auschwitz & Japanese Unit 731 Date: 17 Aug 1995 00:12:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 32 Message-ID: <40u1hn$q01@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou7-24.ix.netcom.com Xref: news.island.net alt.revisionism:31591 soc.history:40174 Independent, cat3wog, curious again about the scientific staff responsible for designing the Kadaver Conversion Factory at Auschwitz for the purpose of high production rate conversion of 4,000,000 human kadavers (*do not respond that revisionist historians changed the number downward to less than a 1,000,000*) First time was when the U.S. Senate repudiated revisionist Liberal Democratic History 2000 Standards ( 99 - 1 ) & the Smithsonian said Japan was only defending its unique culture from WASP Supremacists. Now, the entertainment revisionist media produced a Unit 731 Germ & Bacteria Warfare unit History Special wherein the scientists cut apart "Live Logs" - because the Chinese were subhuman - to perfect their anti-human warfare science. The U.S. is alleged to have kept the knowledge of the history of Unit 731 secret so the U.S. scientists could gain supremacy in germ warfare. One charge is that all Japanese scientist who were not prosecuted, gained wealth from their knowledge and were converted to respectable Liberal Democrats. Is this the case with the Auschwitz Kadaver Conversion Scientists? Please no hate attacks from paid historians and revisionists. Cat3wogs are not worth your time. You only demean yourself by sinking to cat3 level of intelligence. T. 'Torski' Maczuga Kaus Houston, Republic of Texas Liberal Diversity & Multi-Cultural Capitol of the Planet Celebrating Our Differences From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Fri Aug 18 08:32:14 PDT 1995 Article: 31790 of alt.revisionism Path: news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.revisionism Subject: c3w Unbelievable Revisionist History = Denial! Date: 17 Aug 1995 14:19:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 59 Message-ID: <40vj5r$m52@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou5-01.ix.netcom.com Xref: news.island.net soc.history:40281 alt.revisionism:31790 Unbelievable historians promote decisive U.S. social climate. Historians - especially when money is involved (or reputation which eventually translates into money) - get very upset when ordinary people unbelieve a particular version of history. History, historians say, is *fact* supported by documented evidence. Therefore, new facts necessitate revising history. Lately, there seems to be a lot of *new* facts than ever before *discovered* which necessitates revision of "official" history. The most contentious and openly public history revision concerned the Liberal Democratic President Harry S. Truman's decision to be first to use an atom bomb - on a non-military target - mostly on civilians. Liberal revisionist historians now claim the act of first use of an atom bomb was a crime against humanity as the Japanese were ready to surrender in the war to protect their unique culture against the WASP-Supremacist's quest for global domination. Liberal Democratic revisionist historians also proposed a con- tentious revision of U.S. & World History in their History Standards 2000 - which was repudiated by the U.S. Senate ( 99 -1 ). A shared history, historians claim, unites people. Obviously, there are many mean spirited historians who can only mean to divide Americans with their contentious history revisionism. Even children were subjected to history revisionism in the movie Pocohontas. The English settlers were depicted as greedy gold seeking despoilers of the natural beauty of America which had been carefully preserved for generations by the native people. Revisionist historians are usually recognized by their frequent use of typically Liberal Democratic political hate labels when anyone, even ordinary people, question (or doubt) any version of their debateable history - Name calling: racist, sexist, Nazi, homophobe; Insults: your mother is a dog; are all contained in the *codeword* used by intellectual (*.edu*) types - *DENIER*! The most revealing aspect of suspicious revisionist history is what sources and facts are omitted. As revisionists themselves claim, one change in fact demands a revision of all history. Historians to be credible should be required to state facts not considered - which if discovered - would change their historical presentation's conclusions - otherwise ordinary people should Unbelieve all History which is more politics than science. And, everyone knows not to believe politicians? T. 'Torski' Maczuga Kaus Houston, Republic of Texas Liberal Racial Diversity & Multi-Cultural Center of the Planet Celebrating Our Differences From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Fri Aug 18 22:26:48 PDT 1995 Article: 31881 of alt.revisionism Path: news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.revisionism Subject: c3w Scholar Denies Hiroshima History Date: 18 Aug 1995 22:28:22 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 46 Message-ID: <413466$3it@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou10-03.ix.netcom.com Xref: news.island.net soc.history:40375 alt.revisionism:31881 Scholar Denies History The ordinary public in Houston Texas again is exposed to divisive history fostered by ideological differences among historians. Today, the feud is over a version of Japanese history of the Great War Part II and the first use of the atom bomb on Japanese civilians. A Houston university scholar, today publicly condemned 800 plus pages of new Liberal style history - because Japan has made virtually no government documents available; whereas the English, Americans and French captured massive German documents. Conservative Historians claim: No Documentation Evidence - No History. Liberal Historians claim Evidence & Documentation is irrelevant to the "truth" of history. Other ordinary people, brought into contentious history debate by the fact historians are increasingly feuding in public tend to agree with the Liberal position on documented evidence. We all know now, that Nixon deleted portions of his tapes. No tapes - no history. We all know now that extensive documents of the Russian government are forgeries, i.e., Protocols of the Elders of Zion & the John Demjanjuk forgeries. We all know now that government employees "lie" to their diaries. Documentation (or a lack of it) we now know, is generated with a view to history. One court (paid) historian, Procopious, actually wrote two different histories - the one he was paid for and the one he (thought?) he saw. The way things are going - most informed people are encouraged to *Deny All History* - Liberal, Conservative, Court, Social, Vanity, ad nauseam - unless one is prepared to perform individual research and detective work. And, who can afford - or has the interest or time - to do that? Time to Deny all History? T. 'Torski' Maczuga Kaus From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 21 10:30:36 PDT 1995 Article: 32298 of alt.revisionism Path: news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history Subject: c3w American-American Revisionist History Date: 21 Aug 1995 13:27:17 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 54 Message-ID: <41a1jl$rvr@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou6-12.ix.netcom.com Xref: news.island.net alt.revisionism:32298 soc.history:40556 Ordinary, Politically Independent, American-Americans intent on remaining blissfully ignorant of History began to sense their error during the late 1980's when presidential candidates were quizzed about European Jewish Holocaust History (1939-1945). Somehow * History * - had become a new political religion. The Orthodox History of the Jewish Holocaust - at that time - required unquestioned belief that 4,000,000 Jews & Others were exterminated in a specially designed Nazi factory at Auschwitz capable of rendering human kadavers into chemical and medical by-products - thus leaving little or no evidence of the crime. To further add to the confusion, Revisionist Historians have since reduced the 4,000,000 Jews & Others exterminated at Auschwitz to about 1,000,000 - only mostly Jews. Liberal Revisionist Historians became more openly contentious when they produced the New Revised National History Standards for Goals 2000 (repudiated by the U.S. Senate - 99 to 1). Conservative Revisionist Historians complained about the apparent emphasis on Hollywood and Media Versions of History and accused Liberals of ignoring Conservative American History. Liberal Revisionist Historians, of course, can point to Conservative Revisionist Historians ignoble example of revising history after the Great War Part I to transfer sole crimes against humanity guilt from Queen Vicky's royal family (grandson Willie) to the entire future German Race - peasants & workers. Liberals can also point to Conservative's Historical Forgeries, Altered, Hidden or Destroyed Documents (tapes) and the apparent common political habit of Lying to One's Diaries with a view of slanting future History - all worse than *NO* documentation. Lastly ordinary American-Americans - especially those related to WWII (Pacific Theatre) veterans - did not like the Liberal Revisionists version of History at the Smithsonian wherein Americans were described as fighting a 'war of racial hate and vengeance' while the Japanese were only 'fighting to preserve their unique culture against the WASP-Supremacist's global ambitions for racial supremacy'. The veterans and their families especially protested the Liberal interpretation and revision of history to make the first use of atomic weapons a historical racial crime against humanity - group guilt to be inherited by all future (white?) Americans. Ignore Revisionist History - at your own peril. T. Maczuga Kaus, cat3wog Republic of Texas From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 22 01:17:27 PDT 1995 Article: 4270 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.revisionism Subject: a cat3wog's eyeview of Holocaust Revisionism Date: 22 Aug 1995 14:24:29 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 34 Message-ID: <41cpat$qlj@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou6-26.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.history:70 alt.revisionism:4270 For those of us who were educated in the Liberal WASP Supremacist school systems and can't quite comprehend high level intellectual arguments over Jewish Holocaust (1939-1945) History Revisionism - such as: "History Professor W sleeps with sheep...; History Professor X's mother came in second at the Dog Show... ; History Professor Y is a racist, sexist homophobe...History Professor Z is an anti-Semite..." ..a few *pre-revisionist* (pre- 4,000,000 Jews & Others were exterminated in a high production Kadaver rendering facilities at Auschwitz to make soap & lampshades, scarce war chemicals and medical body spare parts...) pre-Great War Part II Jewish holocaust histories are recommended: Dubnov's History of Eastern Jew's (1920 pre-revised version) from the Congress of Vienna to their rule under Alexander II; wherein Dubnov describes the 1825 holocaust and then the extermination of 2,500,000 Eastern Jews in 1880. The AJC's (1920) "Jews in the Eastern War Zone" describes the fate of 6,000,000 Jews during the Great War Part I. many parts read much like The Jewish Holocaust (1939-1945) - except for Auschwitz (unless you unbelieve Conservative Historian's (1925) Great War revisionism of Queen Vicky's kin's - grandson Willie - Kadaver Factory). Marrus's the "UnWanted" although post 1920''s revisionism gives a clear picture of what some called at the time - the "third holocaust". T. Maczuga Kaus, cat3wog Houston, Republic of Texas Celebrating Our Differences From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 22 19:36:21 PDT 1995 Article: 61 of soc.history Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history Subject: c3w Jewish Auschwitz & Japanese Unit 731 Date: 17 Aug 1995 00:12:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 32 Message-ID: <40u1hn$q01@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou7-24.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:3466 soc.history:61 Independent, cat3wog, curious again about the scientific staff responsible for designing the Kadaver Conversion Factory at Auschwitz for the purpose of high production rate conversion of 4,000,000 human kadavers (*do not respond that revisionist historians changed the number downward to less than a 1,000,000*) First time was when the U.S. Senate repudiated revisionist Liberal Democratic History 2000 Standards ( 99 - 1 ) & the Smithsonian said Japan was only defending its unique culture from WASP Supremacists. Now, the entertainment revisionist media produced a Unit 731 Germ & Bacteria Warfare unit History Special wherein the scientists cut apart "Live Logs" - because the Chinese were subhuman - to perfect their anti-human warfare science. The U.S. is alleged to have kept the knowledge of the history of Unit 731 secret so the U.S. scientists could gain supremacy in germ warfare. One charge is that all Japanese scientist who were not prosecuted, gained wealth from their knowledge and were converted to respectable Liberal Democrats. Is this the case with the Auschwitz Kadaver Conversion Scientists? Please no hate attacks from paid historians and revisionists. Cat3wogs are not worth your time. You only demean yourself by sinking to cat3 level of intelligence. T. 'Torski' Maczuga Kaus Houston, Republic of Texas Liberal Diversity & Multi-Cultural Capitol of the Planet Celebrating Our Differences From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 22 19:36:22 PDT 1995 Article: 63 of soc.history Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.revisionism Subject: c3w Unbelievable Revisionist History = Denial! Date: 17 Aug 1995 14:19:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 59 Message-ID: <40vj5r$m52@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou5-01.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.history:63 alt.revisionism:3656 Unbelievable historians promote decisive U.S. social climate. Historians - especially when money is involved (or reputation which eventually translates into money) - get very upset when ordinary people unbelieve a particular version of history. History, historians say, is *fact* supported by documented evidence. Therefore, new facts necessitate revising history. Lately, there seems to be a lot of *new* facts than ever before *discovered* which necessitates revision of "official" history. The most contentious and openly public history revision concerned the Liberal Democratic President Harry S. Truman's decision to be first to use an atom bomb - on a non-military target - mostly on civilians. Liberal revisionist historians now claim the act of first use of an atom bomb was a crime against humanity as the Japanese were ready to surrender in the war to protect their unique culture against the WASP-Supremacist's quest for global domination. Liberal Democratic revisionist historians also proposed a con- tentious revision of U.S. & World History in their History Standards 2000 - which was repudiated by the U.S. Senate ( 99 -1 ). A shared history, historians claim, unites people. Obviously, there are many mean spirited historians who can only mean to divide Americans with their contentious history revisionism. Even children were subjected to history revisionism in the movie Pocohontas. The English settlers were depicted as greedy gold seeking despoilers of the natural beauty of America which had been carefully preserved for generations by the native people. Revisionist historians are usually recognized by their frequent use of typically Liberal Democratic political hate labels when anyone, even ordinary people, question (or doubt) any version of their debateable history - Name calling: racist, sexist, Nazi, homophobe; Insults: your mother is a dog; are all contained in the *codeword* used by intellectual (*.edu*) types - *DENIER*! The most revealing aspect of suspicious revisionist history is what sources and facts are omitted. As revisionists themselves claim, one change in fact demands a revision of all history. Historians to be credible should be required to state facts not considered - which if discovered - would change their historical presentation's conclusions - otherwise ordinary people should Unbelieve all History which is more politics than science. And, everyone knows not to believe politicians? T. 'Torski' Maczuga Kaus Houston, Republic of Texas Liberal Racial Diversity & Multi-Cultural Center of the Planet Celebrating Our Differences From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 22 19:36:23 PDT 1995 Article: 65 of soc.history Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.revisionism Subject: c3w Scholar Denies Hiroshima History Date: 18 Aug 1995 22:28:22 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 46 Message-ID: <413466$3it@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou10-03.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.history:65 alt.revisionism:3742 Scholar Denies History The ordinary public in Houston Texas again is exposed to divisive history fostered by ideological differences among historians. Today, the feud is over a version of Japanese history of the Great War Part II and the first use of the atom bomb on Japanese civilians. A Houston university scholar, today publicly condemned 800 plus pages of new Liberal style history - because Japan has made virtually no government documents available; whereas the English, Americans and French captured massive German documents. Conservative Historians claim: No Documentation Evidence - No History. Liberal Historians claim Evidence & Documentation is irrelevant to the "truth" of history. Other ordinary people, brought into contentious history debate by the fact historians are increasingly feuding in public tend to agree with the Liberal position on documented evidence. We all know now, that Nixon deleted portions of his tapes. No tapes - no history. We all know now that extensive documents of the Russian government are forgeries, i.e., Protocols of the Elders of Zion & the John Demjanjuk forgeries. We all know now that government employees "lie" to their diaries. Documentation (or a lack of it) we now know, is generated with a view to history. One court (paid) historian, Procopious, actually wrote two different histories - the one he was paid for and the one he (thought?) he saw. The way things are going - most informed people are encouraged to *Deny All History* - Liberal, Conservative, Court, Social, Vanity, ad nauseam - unless one is prepared to perform individual research and detective work. And, who can afford - or has the interest or time - to do that? Time to Deny all History? T. 'Torski' Maczuga Kaus From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 22 19:36:24 PDT 1995 Article: 66 of soc.history Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history Subject: c3w American-American Revisionist History Date: 21 Aug 1995 13:27:17 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 54 Message-ID: <41a1jl$rvr@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou6-12.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:4139 soc.history:66 Ordinary, Politically Independent, American-Americans intent on remaining blissfully ignorant of History began to sense their error during the late 1980's when presidential candidates were quizzed about European Jewish Holocaust History (1939-1945). Somehow * History * - had become a new political religion. The Orthodox History of the Jewish Holocaust - at that time - required unquestioned belief that 4,000,000 Jews & Others were exterminated in a specially designed Nazi factory at Auschwitz capable of rendering human kadavers into chemical and medical by-products - thus leaving little or no evidence of the crime. To further add to the confusion, Revisionist Historians have since reduced the 4,000,000 Jews & Others exterminated at Auschwitz to about 1,000,000 - only mostly Jews. Liberal Revisionist Historians became more openly contentious when they produced the New Revised National History Standards for Goals 2000 (repudiated by the U.S. Senate - 99 to 1). Conservative Revisionist Historians complained about the apparent emphasis on Hollywood and Media Versions of History and accused Liberals of ignoring Conservative American History. Liberal Revisionist Historians, of course, can point to Conservative Revisionist Historians ignoble example of revising history after the Great War Part I to transfer sole crimes against humanity guilt from Queen Vicky's royal family (grandson Willie) to the entire future German Race - peasants & workers. Liberals can also point to Conservative's Historical Forgeries, Altered, Hidden or Destroyed Documents (tapes) and the apparent common political habit of Lying to One's Diaries with a view of slanting future History - all worse than *NO* documentation. Lastly ordinary American-Americans - especially those related to WWII (Pacific Theatre) veterans - did not like the Liberal Revisionists version of History at the Smithsonian wherein Americans were described as fighting a 'war of racial hate and vengeance' while the Japanese were only 'fighting to preserve their unique culture against the WASP-Supremacist's global ambitions for racial supremacy'. The veterans and their families especially protested the Liberal interpretation and revision of history to make the first use of atomic weapons a historical racial crime against humanity - group guilt to be inherited by all future (white?) Americans. Ignore Revisionist History - at your own peril. T. Maczuga Kaus, cat3wog Republic of Texas From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 22 19:36:25 PDT 1995 Article: 67 of soc.history Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.revisionism Subject: c3w Has History become a Liberal Religion? Date: 21 Aug 1995 23:41:57 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 105 Message-ID: <41b5k5$ju9@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou6-11.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.history:67 alt.revisionism:4198 History - *is* a Religion? Emperor of France, Napoleon attempted to reinstall religion - outlawed during the French Revolution - because he needed a reason to explain inequality amomg the citizens living in the New Liberal Democratic World Order. Religion, Napoleon reasoned was the only intellectual philosophy available to explain why some people were starving while others were still fat and happy - God wants it that way - religion explains - most will get theirs later, in heaven. Later (1848), French Liberal Intellectuals invented "Racial Supremacy" as the reason to explain why some were rich and others were starving. Racial Supremacy at this point in time really meant "Culture". The skulls of French Anglo-Saxons were measured along with observed Hair, Eye and Skin Color, Height & Weight proportions, Size and Shape of Nose, etc. Since the French Anglo Saxons possessed the most supreme culture in the world, Liberal scientists assumed a direct relationship between physical "race" characteristics and intellectual "culture" characteristics. Intelligence was racially inherited! Race then replaced religion to explain inequality among humans. As the intellectual world was confined to Western Europe at that time Race satisfactorily explained inequality in the world. Later, when the New World Order Government was established in Paris (1919) Racial Supremacy ran into trouble when the Japanese were declared supreme among Yellow People - but still not the equals of white WASPs. Later (1945) the Chinese replaced the Japanese as Yellow supremes in the New World Order. Today, Liberal intellectuals are apparently increasingly trapped by racial supremacy dogma. What, for example, does the White Race mean. In Europe, originally race meant culture, but today Liberal intellectual scientists now recognize over one-hundred and seventy different "white" (races) cultures. Now, "History", or more specifically, "A History of Oppression" explains why people are still unequal. Affirmative Action was invented to "correct" Racial Historical Oppression - now at last an intellectual dogma exists to explain why everyone is not equal - *now* at last, everyone can be made equal. Today,Liberals use a "History of Under-Utilization" as well as a "History of Oppression" as justification to provide group preferences over other racial groups to "Level the Playing Field" and make everyone equal. In other words, to treat Americans Equally we must treat certain racial groups Unequally! History, used to replace religion as the explanation why people are treated differently in a Liberal Democracy would explain why debates over History today are so contentious. Prior to 1920, History was defined as a systematic record of past events, especially of those in which "man" has taken part. (Naturally women resented being excluded from history & "white" man was implied - so Black men felt excluded from history). After 1920, History was defined as a record of significant events (as affecting a nation or institution) often including an explanation for their causes. Recently, in 1995, History was apparently re-defined as a systematic record of oppression experienced by non-white ordinary men and women (Liberal Democrats) mostly explained by racism, sexism and homophobia (often including a measure of guilt used to determined reparations and preference entitlements). Conservative History is mostly flawed, of course, because of the demand for evidence of documentation to support one's historical conclusions. Documentation can be forged (Protocols of the Elders of Zion), Documentation can be destroyed (Nixon's Tapes), Documentation can contain Lies (Lying to a Diary), Documentation can be withheld (Japanese WWII government papers). Many historians were hired to place the best possible face on history of the payee and the worst possible history on the payee's enemies. And, of course, Losers were not permitted to write their version of history - Only winners wrote history. Today, the entertainment industry is "writing history". Pocohontas depicts a beautiful, intelligent, worthy Indian girl resisting an ugly fat greedy English white male supremacist intent on destroying the pristine environment for gold - intent on exterminating every inferior being in his way. To be fair, the entertainment industry "wrote a history" Lion King, wherein everything has a natural place in the circle of life and even the most superior is eventually eaten by the most inferior - the conservative religious explanation of equality; you'll get yours in heaven. If not a religion, then is history only entertainment? T. Maczuga Kaus, cat3wog Ordinary, Politically Independent, American-Americans intent on remaining blissfully ignorant of History began to sense their error during the late 1980's when presidential candidates were quizzed about European Jewish Holocaust History (1939-1945). From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 22 19:36:25 PDT 1995 Article: 68 of soc.history Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!kryten.awinc.com!netnet2.netnet.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.revisionism Subject: c3w History Revisionism Deniers Date: 21 Aug 1995 23:55:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 114 Message-ID: <41b6ck$bmr@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou5-13.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.history:68 alt.revisionism:4202 Revisionism Deniers Now that "history" is used by Liberal Democrats to explain inequality - an industry of history revision has developed. Ordinary people didn't much care about history until 1920 when H.G. Wells wrote a million word Outline of History explaining why race (not religion) determines status in life. The Supremes had experienced problems with the ordinary masses changing their religions to avoid inequality - but virtually no-one (until today) could change their race. Ordinary people (Germans) were shocked by revisionist historians who now blamed them for starting the Great War (Part I) - instead of the original culprit Queen Vicky's grandson Willie. Ordinary people in England, France and America were determined to "hang" King Willie for Crimes against Humanity: Operating a Human Kadaver Factory, Murdering Civilians, Destroying Churches and; the first use of submarines to sink civilian shipping and use of gas to disable or kill soldiers. Many people, perhaps friends of Queen Vicky and those who supported WASP supremacy, did not want to try and execute a royal family member for "crimes against humanity" - therefore all the history books had to be revised and rewritten. In addition to the Legal arguments, A Monarch cannot be tried for Crimes; Willie was no Longer a Monarch and couldn't be tried for Crimes of a Monarch - besides Willie didn't really do these terrible things: i.e., convert kadavers into soap, his generals issued the orders to shoot civilians, - and finally Willie was a good King with an impossible job of ruling a Barbarian Race: the Germans. Article 227 arraigned "William II of Hohenzolleren, formerly German Emperor, for a supreme offence against international morality..." Articles 228 & 229 were established to try the generals, admirals and politicians with wartime atrocities. Somewhere along the way, royal supported succeeded in absolving Queen Vicky's Willie & Son. Next it was found that within Germany, being accused by the English & French was deemed an honor - assuring future political success in the new imposed German Democracy. A personal friend of the U.S. President Thomas W. Wilson - a Liberal Democratic, who was credited with inducing Germany's surrender with his Fourteen Points offer wherein every race in Europe would be their own master - wrote proposing that Willie not be tried, but that the entire German Race would be assigned inherited group guilt for Willie's crimes against humanity. Article 231, sole guilt for starting the Great War, was assigned to every ordinary German with such reparations owed would require several future generations of ordinary Germans required to pay to France and England their victim's due. Although post-war 1920 saw a great deal of revisionist history activity, mostly because a royal house was involved and a massive propaganda campaign was conducted during the conflict to establish Willie's sole guilt (Intellectuals determined that hate was necessary to fight wars and ordinary common soldiers couldn't hate groups of people without an single target symbol - Emperor Willie). Almost always, revisionist historians were employed by royals to rewrite royal history. Usually, the history of one's predecessor royal was diminished and the present royal's history enhanced. What was unusual of WWI history revisionism is that hate was transferred from the Royals to the masses of ordinary Germans. A very interesting treatment of historical revisionism (actually recycling history) can be found in the history of Eastern European Jews. (See: Dubnov (1920), History of Jews under Alexander II; AJC (1920), History of Jews in the Eastern War Zone; Marrus (70s?), the Unwanted; and two of the ten-dozen works on the Jewish Holocaust (1939-1945) - especially Raul Hilberg and Lucy Dawidowicz (1975). Another interesting treatment of incidental historical revisionism can be inferred by comparing the difference between each edition of a historical work - especially what is omitted. And, of course, one can assume that historians who become persona non grata represent history requiring such extensive rewriting that only by ignoring the work can revision succeed. Ordinary American people became aware of the consequences of revisionist history recently with the new history of Hiroshima and the Great War Part II wherein "Americans were actually conducting a war of vengeance against the Japanese and the Japanese were simple attempting to preserve their unique culture from white racist WASP-Supremacist global imperialism. Thousands of still living WWII American serviceman and their families did not enjoy being referred to as 'war criminals" responsible for the first use of an atom bomb on a different race of innocent people. And, perhaps many English people did not like the entertainment revisionist history of Colonial America, considering the fact that most Americans (including childen) receive their history >from the entertainment industry - sans documentation. T. Maczuga Kaus There is nothing new in the world except the history you do not know. H.S. Truman From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 22 19:36:26 PDT 1995 Article: 70 of soc.history Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.revisionism Subject: a cat3wog's eyeview of Holocaust Revisionism Date: 22 Aug 1995 14:24:29 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 34 Message-ID: <41cpat$qlj@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou6-26.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.history:70 alt.revisionism:4270 For those of us who were educated in the Liberal WASP Supremacist school systems and can't quite comprehend high level intellectual arguments over Jewish Holocaust (1939-1945) History Revisionism - such as: "History Professor W sleeps with sheep...; History Professor X's mother came in second at the Dog Show... ; History Professor Y is a racist, sexist homophobe...History Professor Z is an anti-Semite..." ..a few *pre-revisionist* (pre- 4,000,000 Jews & Others were exterminated in a high production Kadaver rendering facilities at Auschwitz to make soap & lampshades, scarce war chemicals and medical body spare parts...) pre-Great War Part II Jewish holocaust histories are recommended: Dubnov's History of Eastern Jew's (1920 pre-revised version) from the Congress of Vienna to their rule under Alexander II; wherein Dubnov describes the 1825 holocaust and then the extermination of 2,500,000 Eastern Jews in 1880. The AJC's (1920) "Jews in the Eastern War Zone" describes the fate of 6,000,000 Jews during the Great War Part I. many parts read much like The Jewish Holocaust (1939-1945) - except for Auschwitz (unless you unbelieve Conservative Historian's (1925) Great War revisionism of Queen Vicky's kin's - grandson Willie - Kadaver Factory). Marrus's the "UnWanted" although post 1920''s revisionism gives a clear picture of what some called at the time - the "third holocaust". T. Maczuga Kaus, cat3wog Houston, Republic of Texas Celebrating Our Differences From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 23 12:49:56 PDT 1995 Article: 4378 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!news.bc.net!news.uoregon.edu!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!in2.uu.net!news1.digital.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!amd!netcomsv!uucp3.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: soc.history,soc.college,alt.revisionism Subject: c3w new History of Under-Utilization (was Oppression) Date: 23 Aug 1995 13:54:09 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 43 Message-ID: <41fbu1$o7f@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou6-17.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.history:121 soc.college:52 alt.revisionism:4378 History of Under-Utilization The history of history is getting pretty intersting - and political. In olden days, history was pretty much vanity - only the best was recorded and the worst omitted - in efforts to establish a family's noble past achievements. Then nations began recording events. And later additional history jobs were created to explain why the events happened - mostly why one nation race was supreme and therefore entitled to rule the world. Then came the History of Oppression of the Jews in Europe - the Holocaust (1939 -1945) - although few explanations seem to exist explaining why 'it' happened? The Civil Rights Political Movement in the U.S. adapted a History of Oppression - groupwise - for the Affirmative Action Quota Programs. But, recently the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that History of Oppression (groups) must have been "actual" in the area where the oppressed racial groups desired political privilege and entitlements. Oregon, for example, may have no history of oppressing Africans. Now, the Liberal Democratic Intellectual Historians have created a sure-fire political pork-barrel preference & entitlement quota quarantee system - through a History of Under-Utilization. If, for example, forty percent of the businesses in Texas are owned by women and the state gives only 10% of its business to women owned businesses - then A History of Under-Utilization exists. And the state is a priori - guilty of oppressing women. These Liberal history professors are creative - huh? Of course, the go along to get along Conservative Historians will just join in writing the new style history - and maximize their profits anyway. T. Maczuga Kaus Republic of Texas From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 23 21:36:15 PDT 1995 Article: 54907 of alt.politics.correct Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!news.rmii.com!van-bc!news.wimsey.com!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!news.larc.nasa.gov!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,alt.politics.correct,alt.politics.equality Subject: c3w the new AA Quota System - Under-Utilization Date: 23 Aug 1995 15:12:03 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 46 Message-ID: <41fgg3$2ro@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou5-11.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.discrimination:34498 alt.politics.correct:54907 History of Under-Utilization (was Oppression - was Affirmative Action) The new Quota scheme to circumvent anti-Quota laws. The history of history is getting pretty interesting - and political. In olden days, history was pretty much family vanity - only the best was recorded and the worst omitted - in efforts to establish a family's noble past achievements. Then nations began recording events, especially relating to human progress. And later additional history jobs were created to explain why the events happened - mostly why one nation's race was supreme and therefore entitled to rule the world. Then came the History of Oppression of the Jews in Europe - the Holocaust (1939 -1945) - although few explanations seem to exist explaining why 'it' happened most ordinary Americans who obtain their history from Hollywood only learned if 'it' in the late '80s. The Civil Rights Political Movement in the U.S. adapted a History of Oppression - groupwise - for the Affirmative Action Quota Programs. But, recently the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the History of Oppression (groups) must have been "actual" in the area where the oppressed racial groups desired political privilege and entitlements. Oregon, for example, may have no history of oppressing Africans. Now, the Liberal Democratic Intellectual Historians have created a sure-fire political pork-barrel preference & entitlement quota quarantee system - through a History of Under-Utilization. If, for example, forty percent of the businesses in Texas are owned by women and the state gives only 10% of its business to women owned businesses - then A History of Under-Utilization exists. And the state is: a priori - guilty of oppressing women. These Liberal history professors are creative - huh? Of course, the go-along-to-get-along Conservative Historians will just join in writing this new style quota history - and maximize their profits anyway. T. Maczuga Kaus Republic of Texas From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 24 10:56:29 PDT 1995 Article: 4450 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. F. Kaus ) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.discrimination,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Why, you're welcome, Chuck! Date: 23 Aug 1995 20:03:23 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 39 Message-ID: <41g1ib$htb@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <418rql$5e3@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <4191a2$46e@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <41d4fo$29r@news.duke.edu> <41fg2u$c5a@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou8-14.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.politics.white-power:164 alt.politics.nationalism.white:139 alt.discrimination:34542 alt.revisionism:4450 In schwartz@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect) writes: > >In article <41fg2u$c5a@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, lsd@ix.netcom.com (Lane >Singer) wrote: > >> In bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les >> Griswold) writes: >> >> >> Can you devise a definition of human which doesn't included >> >>blacks or Jews? >> > >> >He just did, ie "human = White". Wake up. >> >> Define white, Les. The most hilarious thing is, you won't, >> and you can't. >> >Doesn't it have something to do with the texture and quality of ear wax? > >Just checking. > >Sara > The U.S. Government Public Affairs define "white" as the Angle-Saxon race of people living in the Hanover/Paris/London triangle. Accoding to government scientists, people east of this are (and south) are mixed with yellow (and black) Seems pretty simple to me? Have you ever heard of Liberals being wrong? T. Independent cat3wog From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 24 10:56:31 PDT 1995 Article: 4468 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. Maczuga Kaus (ind. cat3wog) ) Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.revisionism Subject: c3w Where's the Line? Date: 24 Aug 1995 11:43:42 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 51 Message-ID: <41hole$1ac@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou6-11.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.history:168 alt.revisionism:4468 Where's the line - anyway; between soc.history-revisionism and alt.revisionism - history? Depending on the time of day; which movie, TV special or newspaper one reads (do people read anymore?) ordinary Americans (those educated in the Liberal WASP-Supremacist schools) are being informed that "official history" has changed - again, again and again. In the olden days, Conservatives began extensive history revision to protect the English Royal Family from the bad deeds of Queen Vicky's grandson Willie. Divine rights of monarchs, that sort of thing. The Supreme Ones could do no wrong. Today it is Japanese vs. the Good Guy's history during the Great War Part II, wherein the Japanese were only defending their unique cultural differences from the WASP-Supremacist's global domination protocols inspired by racial hate and vengeance. Yesterday, it was unnecessary to drop the atom bomb on the Japanese since all their cities had been firebombed and their civilians had all died in a fiery holocaust. As such, only four unbombed cities remained to "test" atomic destruction. Before that, the U.S. Senate repudiated the Liberal Democratic (consensus determined) Revised standards for History - Goals 2000 - by a vote of 99 to 1. What do politicians know anyway? The 'day' before, around the time of the fifty year anniversary of the Jewish Holocaust (1939-1945) newspapers claimed that historians had the number of 'Jews & Others' exterminated at the Nazi Auschwitz Kadaver Factory (extermination and rendering of humans into lampshades and soap, medical spare parts (eyeballs, hair, etc.) and scare wartime chemicals and fertilizer. It seems no reputable historian knew (or questioned) for fifty years that the commies has inflated the number exterminated (4,000,000 Jews & Others when really only 1,000,000 were - mostly Jews). What's going on among history revisionists? One can guess that Liberals are trying to make Conservatives look bad historically and vice versa. Or AA needs Victim History for preferences? History professors on the internet charge one another with sleeping with sheep or another's mother coming in second at the kennel show in addition to the common Liberal intellectual charge of being a racist, sexist, anti-semitic homophobe revisionist. Where's the line between soc.history & alt.revisionism? T. From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 24 10:56:32 PDT 1995 Article: 4469 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!gatech!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. Maczuga Kaus (ind. cat3wog) ) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.discrimination,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Why, you're welcome, Chuck! Date: 24 Aug 1995 11:52:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 29 Message-ID: <41hp63$1fa@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <418rql$5e3@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <4191a2$46e@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <41d4fo$29r@news.duke.edu> <41fg2u$c5a@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <41gve2$107@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou6-11.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.politics.white-power:188 alt.politics.nationalism.white:163 alt.discrimination:34553 alt.revisionism:4469 In <41gve2$107@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> lsd@ix.netcom.com (Lane Singer) writes: > >In bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les >Griswold) writes: > >>>>He just did, ie "human = White". Wake up. >>> >>> Define white, Les. The most hilarious thing is, you won't, >>> and you can't. >> >>Can so. White is anyone of wholly Northern European ancestry. > >So, Italians aren't white? How 'bout the French, are they white? >Poles? Russians? Which of these groups are or aren't white? > >Perhaps it will be easier if you just state which nations are >white. Northern Europe.. Is this a hemispheric parallel thing, >or can you just specify countries? What about the Finnish? > >-- >Singer Sorry again for butting in but the U.S. Government Public Affairs Office clearly settled this issue scientifically - the only pure white people in the world are the Angle-Saxons living in Hanover, Paris and London. Evryone else in mixed with yellow and black! T. From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 24 10:56:33 PDT 1995 Article: 4472 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. Maczuga Kaus (ind. cat3wog) ) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history Subject: Re: GERMAN AMERICAN ARRESTED FOR THOUGHT CRIME Date: 24 Aug 1995 12:03:33 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 24 Message-ID: <41hpql$1lb@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <41hlt4$emk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou6-11.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:4472 soc.history:170 In <41hlt4$emk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> widmann@aol.com (Widmann) writes: > >American Revisionist Jailed by Thought-police. > [snipped see: 38736 alt.revisionism > >Schmidt is known as the President of GANPAC, a political action committee which represents the interests of Germans and Americans of German descent living in the United States. In the past, Schmidt has been outspoken in his views on the rehabilitation of the German soldiers' image. [snipped see 38736 alt.revisionism] > >Schmidt has been sent to a prison in Schweirn. He is being represented by Hajo Herrmann, the attorney who defended U.S. gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter, who was also arrested in Germany for thought-crimes. Isn't his alleged arrest more to do with writing openly: Denying the History of the Jewish Holocaust - rather than just thinking about it? T. From a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 24 13:23:13 PDT 1995 Article: 189 of soc.history Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!hookup!hudson.lm.com!newsfeed.pitt.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!news.duke.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!simtel!noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: a2ce3wog@ix.netcom.com (T. Maczuga Kaus (ind. cat3wog) ) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history Subject: Re: GERMAN AMERICAN ARRESTED FOR THOUGHT CRIME Date: 24 Aug 1995 14:21:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 45 Message-ID: <41i1tf$r4g@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <41hlt4$emk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou5-19.ix.netcom.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:4499 soc.history:189 In ncrccjc@ibm.net writes: > > >IWildman Writes: >> American Revisionist Jailed by Thought-police. >> Most people read Orwell's 1984 with a sense of comfort knowing that the authoritarian regime that is described could never take place in a Western country. Others have seemingly read it and adopted it as an ideal. rwell wrote in his masterpiece, "Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime IS death." >> On August 8th, the thought-police arrested a German-American human rights activist for thoughtcrime. Hans Schmidt was arrested at the Frankfurt/Main airport enroute to his home in Florida. Schmidt's crime having written something in his newsletter, USA-Bericht / GANPAC Brief, which offended certain individuals. >> Schmidt is known as the President of GANPAC, a political action committee >> which represents the interests of Germans and Americans of German descent living in the United States. In the past, Schmidt has been outspoken in his views on the rehabilitation of the German soldiers' image. He has stated that this image has been tarnished by incessant media attacks. Schmidt has been sent to a prison in Schweirn. He is being represented by >> Hajo Herrmann, the attorney who defended U.S. gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter, who was also arrested in Germany for thought-crimes. >>Human Rights Department >> Washington, D.C. >> In fact according to an AP story printed in the Toronto Sun on Aug. 17, 1995 Schmidt was detained in Germany because a newsletter he publishes denies the Nazis murdered Jews during World War 2. In Germany it is a crime to defame the dead. You may not like the law but as the take-off on the old adage > >goes "...when in Germany do as the Germans do..." > Did the AP story say where the crime was committed _ in Germany. Did his newsletter denying history circulate in Germany? Wow. Talk about flunking a History test! T.
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