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Subject: THE HIDDEN TRUTH ON PAT BUCHANAN !
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THE HIDDEN TRUTH ON PAT BUCHANAN !

Please make use of this handy 

VOTERS GUIDE TO MEDIA WORDS

*While watching the race for the Republican Primaries you may hear certain
NEGATIVE WORDS being used with increasing frequency in reference to 
PAT BUCHANAN
this guide will help you understand WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN by these words.

EXTREMIST
Anyone who's beliefs differ from those of the Liberal Media Elite is
labeled as being an EXTREMIST.

ISOLATIONIST
Anyone who doesn't want America's individual Sovereignty traded away to
become a weak worthless cog in The New World Order is called an
ISOLATIONIST.

PROTECTIONIST
Anyone who intends to protect America and the things that made her great
>from  the dark forces that are hell bent on whittling her down to a tiny
pawn in the hands of the United Nations is called a PROTECTIONIST.

BIGOT
Anyone who thinks that PERVERTS that CHOOSE to practice DEVIANT BEHAVIOR
and who want to teach YOUR CHILDREN to do the same, should not be awarded
SPECIAL RIGHTS,  TAX PAYER'S FUNDING, high positions in government and be
classified as a minority EQUAL to ETHNICITY or RELIGION, is called a
BIGOT. 

RELIGIOUS RIGHT
People who have the gall to speak out against the Liberal Media Bias and
their slanted spin on everything ( pro-homosexual, pro-drugs,
pro-abortion, pro-immorality, pro-welfare state, pro-one world government,
anti-family, anti-God ), and people who have the nerve to TAKE A STAND for
DECENCY, MORALS and TRUTH, are dismissed as being members of the 
RELIGIOUS RIGHT.

RACIST, SEXIST, HATE SPEECH, FEAR MONGER & ANY NAZI REFERENCE
These terms are used BY people who are really SCARED that America is
waking up, and her people don't want to be slaves to a Mega Government. 
So in utter desperation they are spitting their slander at a man on whom
they could find NO DIRT, even after dredging up his past and everyone even
remotely associated with him, the best they can do is RUMOR AND INNUENDO
repeated over and over without specifics. Remember, these are the same
people who's intellectual capacity and social rational is so weak that
they couldn't last 5 minutes in a debate with PAT BUCHANAN, and so in a
pathetic, cowardly last ditch attempt to salvage their sinking position
they resort to tiny CLIPS and SOUND BITES  taken out of context. 


* According to POLLS, the views of PAT BUCHANAN agree with those of close to 
80 % of the AMERICAN PEOPLE who are HONEST folks who BELIEVE in GOD and
COUNTRY, TRUTH, JUSTICE the AMERICAN WAY. People who are tired seeing
THEIR NATION and THEIR CHILDREN stolen away and BRAINWASHED by a Liberal
Media Elite MINORITY. 
As a VALUABLE MEMBER of that 80% you may REFER to this handy WORD GUIDE
any time you hear these words used against PAT BUCHANAN, and along with a
RAPIDLY GROWING NUMBER of TRUE AMERICANS, offer back three WORDS of your
own - 

GO PAT GO !!!


From truth@believe.it.com Sat Feb 24 09:12:49 PST 1996
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THE HIDDEN TRUTH ON PAT BUCHANAN !

Please make use of this handy 

VOTERS GUIDE TO MEDIA WORDS

* Did you just watch CNN Inside Politics or some other media offering, and
find the report so SLANTED that your VCR slid off the top of your TV.
YOU are not alone! While watching the race for the Republican Primaries
you may hear certain NEGATIVE WORDS being used with increasing frequency
in reference to 
PAT BUCHANAN
this guide will help you understand WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN by these words.

EXTREMIST, INTOLERANT & DIVISIVE
Anyone who's beliefs differ from those of the Liberal Media Elite is
labeled as being an EXTREMIST, INTOLERANT & DIVISIVE.


ISOLATIONIST
Anyone who doesn't want America's individual Sovereignty traded away to
become a weak worthless cog in The New World Order is called an
ISOLATIONIST.

PROTECTIONIST
Anyone who intends to protect America and the things that made her great
>from  the dark forces that are hell bent on whittling her down to a tiny
pawn in the hands of the United Nations is called a PROTECTIONIST.

BIGOT
Anyone who thinks that PERVERTS that CHOOSE to practice DEVIANT BEHAVIOR
and who want to teach YOUR CHILDREN to do the same, should not be awarded
SPECIAL RIGHTS,  TAX PAYER'S FUNDING, high positions in government and be
classified as a minority EQUAL to ETHNICITY or RELIGION, is called a
BIGOT. 

RELIGIOUS RIGHT
People who have the gall to speak out against the Liberal Media BIAS and
their slanted spin on everything ( pro-homosexual, pro-drugs,
pro-abortion, pro-immorality, pro-welfare state, pro-one world government,
anti-family, anti-God ), and people who have the nerve to TAKE A STAND for
DECENCY, MORALS and TRUTH, are dismissed as being members of the 
RELIGIOUS RIGHT.

RACIST, SEXIST AND ANY NAZI REFERENCE
These terms are used BY people who are really SCARED that America is
waking up, and her people don't want to be slaves to a Mega Government. 
So in utter desperation they are spitting their slander at a man on whom
they could find NO DIRT, even after dredging up his past and everyone even
remotely associated with him, the best they can do is RUMOR AND INNUENDO
repeated over and over without specifics. Remember, these are the same
people who's intellectual capacity and social rational is so weak that
they couldn't last 5 minutes in a debate with PAT BUCHANAN, and so in a
pathetic, cowardly last ditch attempt to salvage their sinking position
they resort to tiny CLIPS and SOUND BITES  taken out of context. 


* According to POLLS such as GALLUP, the views of PAT BUCHANAN agree with
those of close to 80 % of the AMERICAN PEOPLE who are HONEST folks who
BELIEVE in GOD and COUNTRY, TRUTH, JUSTICE and the AMERICAN WAY. People
who are tired of seeing THEIR NATION and THEIR CHILDREN stolen away and
BRAINWASHED by a Liberal Media Elite MINORITY. 
As a VALUABLE MEMBER of that 80%, you may REFER to this handy WORD GUIDE
any time you hear these words used against PAT BUCHANAN, and along with a
RAPIDLY GROWING NUMBER of TRUE AMERICANS, offer back three WORDS of your
own - 

GO PAT GO !!!



From hiriser@ix.netcom.com Mon Feb 26 16:00:41 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Buchanan on the Holocaust!
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The Miker wrote:

> I hereby challenge people to back up their charges of racism against Pat
> by showing definitive proof he has an irrational belief in the
> superiority of _white_ people.  Do not speak of religion, speak of
> race--that is where the word racist is based.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> MikeL

We'll certainly try, MikeL. Although I have found responding to right-wingers 
about anything is fruitless. I will make an exception in your case.

>From  a Buchanan article "Immigration Reform or Racial Purity?":	

      "The burning issue here has almost nothing to do with
      economics, almost everything to do with race and ethnicity. If
      British subjects, fleeing a depression, were pouring into this
      country through Canada, there would be few alarms."

      "The central objection to the present flood of illegals is
      they are not English-speaking white people from Western Europe ;
      they are Spanish-speaking brown and black people from Mexico,
      Latin America and the Caribbean."

And:

      "The question we Americans need to address, before it is
      answered for us, is: Does this First World nation wish to become
      a Third World country? Because that is our destiny if we do not
      build a sea wall against the waves of immigration rolling over
      our shores....Who speaks for the Euro-Americans, who founded the
      USA?...Is it not time to take America back?"

Well, MikeL, it's time to apply your right-wing rationale and convince 
yourself that it's all still hogwash and that your hero is really a good man 
despite everything anybody says about him. Your choice, of course.

HR


From mvanalst@rbi.com Tue Feb 27 08:16:16 PST 1996
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From: mvanalst@rbi.com (Mark Van Alstine)
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Subject: Re: Buchanan on the Holocaust
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In article <4gokll$qcb@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU>, rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU
(Richard J. Green) wrote:

> In article <312E6EA2.4310@unb.ca>, Keith Morrison   wrote:
> 
> >Do you have any actual citation for that?  I don't follow Buchanan to
> >any extant so I have no idea where his columns are carried.  Personally,
> >I would *love* to know if he really said it.
> 
> Lipstadt gives a citation for that in _Denying the Holocaust_.
> Check out Buchanan in the index.

Yes, indeed she does. It reads as follows:

"...Patrick Buchanan, one of the foremost right-wing conservative
columnists in the country, used his widely syndicated column to express
views that come straight from the scripts of Holocaust deniers. He argued
that it was phsysically impossible for the gas chamber at Treblinka to
have functioned as a killing apparatus because the diesel engines that
powered it could not produce enough carbon monoxide to be lethal.
Buchanan's 'proof' was a 1988 incident in which ninety-seven passengers on
a train in Washington, D.C., were stuck in a tunnel as a the train emitted
carmonoxide fumes. Because the passengers were not harmed, Buchanan
extrapolated that the victims in a gas chamber using carbon monoxide from
diesel engines would not have been harmed." [1]

In regards to Buchanan's actual comment, which was in defense of
Demjanjuk, I believe it is as follows:

"...The Israeli court, however, concluded the murder weapon for 850,000
was the diesel engine from a Soviet tank which drove its exhaust into the
death 
chamber. All died in 20 minutes, Finkelstein swore in 1945. The problem
is: Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody.  In
1988, 97 kids, trapped 400 feet underground in a Washington, D.C. tunnel
while two locomotives spewed diesel exhaust into the car, emerged unharmed
after 45 minutes. Demjanjuk's weapon of mass murder cannot kill...." [2]

It is worth noting here that when asked where he came by his information
that deisel engines couldn't kill in the manner used at Treblinka,
Buchanan said "somebody sent it to me." [3] Now what is especially
interesting is that Holcaust denier Fredreich (Fritz) Berg who, besides
having been affiliated with the IHR and saying that the "Holocaust story
is an insane hoax," published an article about _exactly_ what Buchanan
talked about in his defense of Demjanjuk: That diesel engines do not emit
enough carbon monoxide to kill and therefore the gassing vans used at
Treblinka could not have killed people. It is probably not an unwarranted
assumption, then, that the "information" supplied to Buchanan was probably
Berg's fallacious, and debunked, article: _Diesel Gas Chambers-Myth Within
a Myth_. 

One other interesting comment that Buchanan has made was in reference to,
as he called it, the "so-called Holocaust Survivor Syndrome." According to
Buchanan, this "syndrome" involves "group fantasies of martyrdom and
heroics." [2]

One might ask if Buchanan also believes that U.S. servicemen who survived
the Bataan Death March suffered from a so-called "Death March Syndrome?"
Does he also think that those who survived it and are still living also
suffer "group fantasies of martydom and heroics?" Does Buchanan think,
perhaps, that the WWII "story" was a "insane hoax" as well? 

Or more to the point, as Buchanan seemed to find Berg such an impeccable
"authority" on diesel engines that he obviously didn't even bother to
check into the subject before parroting Berg's opinions, does he also,
like Berg, think the "Holocaust story is an insane hoax?"

Inquiring minds want to know! 

Mark


1. _Denying the Holocaust_ / Deborah Lipstadt, ISBN 0-452-27274-2; pp. 5-6;
p.238, Note 13. Jacob Weisberg, "The Heresies of Pat Buchanan," _New
Republic_, Oct. 22, 1990, pp.26-27.

2. Buchanan, Patrick, "'Ivan the Terrible' - More Doubts," _New York Post_,
Saturday, March 17, 1990.

3.  _Denying the Holocaust_ / Deborah Lipstadt, ISBN 0-452-27274-2; p.6;
p.238, Note 14. Ibid., p.26"

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