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kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:
>Dan Gannon:
>
>You have been asked, dozens of times, to answer the ten specific
>questions which follow, in order to provide rational debate in this open
>forum. To date, you have failed to answer them - even one of them.


     I asked you to have patience.  My busy life does not revolve around you
and your demands.  You have somehow failed to notice -- even after I have
repeatedly pointed it out to you -- that I have already answered many of
these questions in messages which I have posted previously.  When you say I
have "failed to answer...even one of them", you are lying.  As usual.

     Because of the deliberate lies and venomous name-calling which you
constantly engage in against me, I long ago decided not to waste my time
trying to converse with you.  Judging by your behavior, you are definitely
not worth my time.

     I have answered these 10 questions because of the great opportunity it
provided me to refute your strongest "evidence" for all to see.  Aside from
that, you and your "Holocaust" propaganda "buddies" seemed very eager for
the answers.  I'm sure you will all be quite happy now.

     Below are your ten questions, with my answers following each of them:


___________________________________________________________________________

1) Why do some of the authorizations for travel between Auschwitz and 
   Dessau describe the Zyklon-B as "material for resettlement of Jews" 
   and "material for special treatment"? Both are common codewords for 
   killing, as demonstrated by many original documents. Why not just 
   "material for delousing", "material for disinfection" etc? Note,
   for instance, the use of the expression "special treatment" in the
   following document:

      Memorandum of Gestapo Headquarters, 15 June 1944
      [Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals - 
      Washington, U.S Govt. Print. Off., 1949-1953, Vol. IV, p. 1166]
      ------------------------------------------------------------------

      In amending my directive of June 20 1944, I request that
      those people subject to special treatment be sent to a
      crematorium to be cremated if possible.
___________________________________________________________________________



ANSWER TO QUESTION #1:


     First, who was the author of the "Memorandum of Gestapo Headquarters,
15 June 1944" which you cite?  Is the original available, or just the
typical unsigned, typewritten "copy"?  What was the context surrounding the
document...?

     "Special treatment" ("Sonderbehandlung") was not a "code word" and did
not automatically mean "killing".  It meant a whole range of things,
depending on the context.  Below is an example, taken from _Not Guilty at
Nuremberg: The German Defense Case_, by Carlos Whitlock Porter:


          "Sonderbehandlung" (special treatment) is an example of the ugly
     jargon used in all bureaucracies, and is probably best translated as
     "treatment on a case by case basis".  Kaltenbrunner was able to show
     that it meant, in the context of one document, the right to drink
     champagne and take French lessons.  The prosecution got a winter resort
     mixed up with a concentration camp (XI 338-339); (XI 232-386; XVIII
     40-68).  (The winter resort document is Document 3839-PS, XXXIII
     197-199, an "affidavit").


More examples of meanings for "special treatment" ("Sonderbehandlung"):

-----

     In the meantime, on August 26 and October 2, 1942, two other documents
     of the same sort speak of "material for special treatment" and
     "material for the transport of the Jews."  There Pressac sees proof
     that, BOTH TIMES, what is meant is gas for KILLING the Jews!  This is
     no proof at all.  As the general context (three other texts of the same
     sort) demonstrates, the gas was for disinfecting clothing or rooms on
     account of the arrival of the Jews who had been deported. The term
     "special treatment" (Sonderbehandlung) here designates transport
     (Transportierung) of the Jews (_Reponse a Vidal-Naquet_, op. cit., p.
     24).  The more people arrived at Auschwitz, which functioned as a
     turntable for redistributing a large number of deportees to other camps
     after a quarantine period, the more necessary was Zyklon-B.


               [From "Improvised Gas Chambers & Casual Gassings at Auschwitz
               & Birkenau, According to J.-C. Pressac (1989) -- Part I", by
               Robert Faurisson.  Printed in _The Journal of Historical
               Review_, Vol. 11, Number 1 (Spring 1991).]

-----

          The reality was the following:  Sonderbehandlung could have a
     whole series of meanings, from the most serious to the most benign.
     The context should instruct the reader.  The primary meaning seems to
     be medical, and one will find, for example:  "Sonderbehandlung:
     Quarantanelager (quarantine camp)."  On the other hand, in document
     PS-502, the same word means explicitly "executions."  Sonderbehandlung
     was also applied to the favored treatment enjoyed in captivity by high
     officials.  See what defendant Kaltenbrunner says about it at the
     International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg (French edition, Volume
     XI, pp. 347-348):


               In those two deluxe hotels [for special treatment] were
          lodged some of the best people such as M. Poncet, M. Herriot, etc.
          They received rations triple those normal for a diplomat; that is
          to say, nine times the wartime rations of a German.  Every day
          each received a bottle of champagne; they corresponded freely with
          their families, they could receive parcels from their families
          left behind in France.  These internees received frequent visits,
          and we would inquire about all their desires.  That is what we
          called "SPECIAL TREATMENT."


          Arrivals and departures were noted in the reports of the daily
     population of each camp.  Among the departures might be noted the dead,
     the "S.B." (Sonderbehandlung), the freed (people forget that many of
     the concentration-camp inmates could leave Auschwitz after completing a
     sentence of several months), and those transferred.  They would have us
     believe that the "S.B." were those condemned to "gassing."  There were,
     however, "S.B." in the camps that had no gas chambers, even according
     to the Exterminationists.  These "S.B." must have been, in all
     probability, internees assigned to other camps for some reason
     (Bergen-Belsen for health; Bergen-Belsen for categories of Jews to be
     exchanged with the Allies; Ravensbruck for women; Dachau for priests;
     Theresienstadt for old people, etc.).  The "transferred" category,
     properly speaking, was made up of people assigned to a particular job
     either in the camp, or in a distant camp.


               [From "Response to a Paper Historian", by Robert Faurisson.
               English translation printed in _The Journal of Historical
               Review_, Volume 7, Number 1 (Spring 1986).]

-----

     As for "material for resettlement of Jews", Zyklon-B was used for the
delousing of clothing and such, which was to preserve the health of the
inmates in the face of lethal Typhus epidemics.  The Nazi government's
policy was to resettle the Jews to a territory of their own (Madagascar and
Palestine were considered).  It was referred to as the "final solution", or
the "final solution to the Jewish problem".  That policy was repeatedly
discussed, and has been documented.  To make this resettlement possible, it
was necessary to keep the Jews alive.  Zyklon-B could therefore be
accurately called "material for resettlement of the Jews".


___________________________________________________________________________

2) What were the underground cellars in Kremas II and III for?
___________________________________________________________________________



ANSWER TO QUESTION #2:


     The underground cellars of Kremas II and III were designed and used as
morgues.

     The following is excerpted from _REMARKS_ issue #2, in which Jack
Wikoff reviews Pressac's _Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas
Chambers_:

-----

     Homicidal gassings are claimed to have taken place in six concentration
camps in German-occupied Poland.  The most infamous of these is
Auschwitz-Birkenau.  Although it is claimed homicidal gassings of human
beings took place in seven or eight locations at Auschwitz-Birkenau, the
vast majority of the killings, about seventy-five percent, would have
happened in just two buildings.*

*  On page 264 of Jean-Claude Pressac's _Auschwitz: Technique and Operation
of the Gas Chambers_ he says the Nuremberg figure of 4,000,000 is "now
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million".  He claims the number of alleged gassings in Crematories Two and
Three totaled about 750,000 people.

     These buildings are known as Crematories Two and Three:  two buildings,
mirror-images of one another, built from identical architectural plans.  So
in an architectural sense most of the killings at Auschwitz/Birkenau must
have taken place in this one single type of industrially designed facility.
[...]

     Pressac emphasizes that the central question in his _Auschwitz:
Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers_ center around Crematories Two
and Three.  When it is understood that these buildings, essentially one
structure, were not designed or used for homicidal gassings, the "holocaust"
house-of-cards collapses.

     Crematories Two and Three were designed by the Auschwitz Bauleitung
(Construction Management) Drawing Office of the SS in early 1942.  Bids for
construction were taken in the summer of 1942, and the facilities began
functioning in March, 1943 and June 1943 respectively.

     Examination of the blueprints in Pressac's book make it very clear that
these buildings were cremation and morgue facilities.  The basement rooms
which are alleged to have been used for undressing and gassing are clearly
marked as "Leichenenkeller" [corpse cellars or morgues].  [...]

     Pressac admits that these buildings were designed and built as
crematories and morgues, not as gas chambers.  On page 429 we find the
following statements:


          Faurisson asked for 'one proof...one single proof' of the
     existence of homicidal gas chambers.  The 'traditional' historians
     provided him with an 'abundance of proofs' which were all based on
     human testimony...But human testimony is fallible.  It is unreliable
     and Faurisson wanted a CONCRETE historical proof, that is proof based
     on incontestable and irrefutable documents.

          As for the technical drawings of the Krematorien, cited in legal
     actions and described as proving that they were planned for large scale
     assassination by gas (which is in fact incorrect), NOT ONE explicitly
     mentions in so many words anything like:  'Blausaure' [prussic acid]
     'Vergasungs-' or 'Gaskammer' or '-keller' ['gassing' or 'gas chamber'
     or 'cellar'].  This is not because the drawings were 'camouflaged' in
     any way, but is simply because the buildings concerned were converted
     from their original function, cremation pure and simple, and
     transformed for criminal use, so that the compromising words could not
     have been written on the original drawings of Krematorien II and III...

          In final analysis, there remain only the various items of
     correspondence and official documents of German origin.  Through the
     'slips' that can be found in them, they form a convincing body of
     presumptive evidence and clearly indicate the presence...of gas
     chambers...

          In the absence of any 'direct', i.e. palpable, in-disputable and
     evident proof (lacking so far as we know at present) such as a
     photograph of people killed by toxic gas in an enclosed space that can
     be perfectly located and identified, or of a label on a Krematorium
     drawing of a 'Gaskammer um Juden zu vergiften / gas chamber for
     poisoning Jews' an 'indirect' proof may suffice and be valid.  By
     'indirect' proof, I mean a German document that does not state in black
     and white that a gas chamber is for HOMICIDAL purposes, but one
     containing evidence logically that it is impossible for it to be anything
     else.


     These are extraordinary admissions!  This is the "amazing, rapidly
shrinking 'holocaust'" we have heard so much about!  It has taken
Revisionists forty-five years to get Exterminationist "experts" to admit
these facts.

     Thus, Pressac's only argument is that very late in the construction
process (early 1943), the morgues were converted to homicidal gas chambers.
He contrives all sorts of sinister meanings from construction order forms,
drawings and office correspondence.

     The huge volumes of paperwork seized by the Soviets from the Auschwitz
camp say NOTHING about extermination.  As Robert Faurisson has pointed out,
there are no orders, plans, budgets, drawings for gas chambers or records of
gassings.  Also, Crematories Two and Three were built long after the alleged
extermination of the Jews was supposed to have been ordered, planned and
initiated.


___________________________________________________________________________

3) What do you make of the reference to a "gassing cellar" in Krema II,
   in a letter from SS-Sturmbannfuehrer Bischoff, of the Auschwitz 
   construction department, to SS General Kammler, January 29, 1943?
___________________________________________________________________________



ANSWER TO QUESTION #3:


     That document, and others, indicates that plans were made to convert
basement rooms of Crematoria Two and Three to Zyklon B disinfestation
chambers and/or air raid shelters, not extermination facilities as Pressac
claims.  The text below is again excerpted from _REMARKS_ issue #2 (review
by Jack Wikoff of Pressac's _Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas
Chambers_):

-----

    In 1942-43 Auschwitz-Birkenau and other camps were suffering from
epidemics of typhus and other infectious diseases.  On December 28, 1942 an
urgent order had gone out from Reichsfuehrer-SS Heinrich Himmler that the
death rate "be reduced at all costs".*  An attempt to convert Leichenkeller
I into a disinfestation chamber in early 1943 is consistent with these
urgent disease-control programs being implemented by the German armed forces
in wartime Europe.

*  Gerald Reitlinger, _The Final Solution_, 2nd ed., Vallentine, Mitchell,
London, 1968: pg 127; Nuremberg document 2172-PS.

     The clothing on cadavers brought into the underground morgues was
frequently infested with disease-carrying lice.  If more corpses were in
storage than could be handled quickly by the ovens, then these corpses might
also have had to be disinfested, ideally in the same building.

     Also, in March 1943 an attempt was made to provide heat, when needed,
to the basement of the Crematoria, by diverting it with fans and ducts from
the crematory ovens.  (p. 223)  Unfortunately one of the forced-draught
motors caught fire and caused considerable damage.  The idea of heating for
the basement was consequently dropped.

     Since the hydrogen cyanide in Zyklon B has an evaporation point of 78.3
degrees F., this temperature must be reached for a room to function either
as a disinfestation or homicidal gas chamber.  But these underground morgues
were designed to stay cool to prevent decomposition of cadavers.

     Thus the difficulty of effectively heating these rooms may have been a
reason to abandon use of them as disinfestation chambers.  The forensic
samples taken in the ruins of these basement rooms by Fred Leuchter indicate
that very small amounts of Zyklon B were used there, amounts inconsistent
with regular use as disinfestation or homicidal gas chambers.  Also the
gas-tight doors may have been retained to keep noxious smells contained
within the rooms.

     Gas-tight doors with peep holes are standard for air-raid shelters and
this is another explanation for their presence in the basement rooms.  In
1939 orders were given throughout Germany to equip apartment houses, office
buildings and other structures which had basements with facilities for
shelter from air raids.  A bomb blast near a shelter can exhaust all oxygen
in the vicinity in addition to producing poisonous gases.  This author [Jack
Wikoff] has in his possession photocopies of 1939 German manuals on the
construction of gas-tight bomb shelters.  (These photocopies were kindly
made available by Revisionist researcher Friedrich Paul Berg.)  The
gas-tight doors with peep holes illustrated in the manuals are similar to
those reproduced in the Pressac book.

     Several of the documents reproduced in _Auschwitz: Technique and
Operation of the Gas Chambers_ prove that extensive defenses against aerial
bombing were instituted at Auschwitz-Birkenau.  On page 156 is a blueprint
for the conversion of the morgue (alleged homicidal gas chamber) in
Crematoria One at the Auschwitz Main Camp into a bomb shelter.  This shelter
had a gas-tight door with a peep-hole which can still be seen by tourists
today.

     Furthermore, Pressac states that the alleged homicidal gas chamber in
Crematorium Two may have been divided in half in 1944 (p. 251).  This is
very consistent with other documentation on bomb shelters at
Auschwitz-Birkenau.  The dividing wall would have provided extra
reinforcement for the concrete ceiling.

     Those with a macabre sense of humor can imagine the irony of one room
being used simultaneously as a gas chamber and an air-raid shelter.  Picture



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scores of SS guards, civilian workers, and privileged inmates rushing to the
underground shelter as warning sirens wail, only to have the air-raid warden
say "Sorry guys, this room is occupied.  Can you come back when these 3000
corpses have been removed?"


___________________________________________________________________________

4) Why do the construction documents for Kremas IV and V mention "gas
   chambers" in them?
___________________________________________________________________________



ANSWER TO QUESTION #4:


     First, what precise term (in German) is used, and in what context?
What is your source for the documents?  To which documents do you refer?

     Kremas IV and V may have had delousing chambers in them.

     The following excerpts are taken from "Improvised Gas Chambers & Casual
Gassings at Auschwitz & Birkenau, According to J.-C. Pressac (1989) -- Part
I", by Robert Faurisson:

-----

     Krema IV and V are supposed to have been planned WITH homicidal gas
chambers (p. 384).  They are supposed to have functioned, one beginning on
March 22, the other on April 4, 1943 (p. 378), but to have been scarcely
used.  "After two months, Krematorium IV was completely out of service.
Krematorium V did not enter service until later, but was scarcely any
better."  (p. 384, 420).   The gassing procedure is described as "illogical
to the point of absurdity" (p. 379) and as "constituting a circus act" for
the SS man carrying out the gassing (p. 386; see p. 43-46 below).

     It is important to recall here that in 1982 Pressac maintained that
Kremas IV and V had been planned WITHOUT homicidal gas chambers; the
Germans had, according to him, transformed harmless rooms into homicidal
gas chambers ("Les 'Krematorien' IV et V de Birkenau et leurs chambres a
gaz, construction et fonctionnement," _Le Monde juif_, July-September 1982,
p. 91-131).  He never lets us know why he renounced that thesis in order to
adopt one diametrically opposed now.

     To sum up, if one is to believe our guide, one obtains, as to
crematoria planned WITH or WITHOUT homicidal gas chambers, the following
sequence, arranged in chronological order according to initial date of
operation:


     Krema I:  planned WITH homicidal gas chamber

     Krema IV:  planned WITH (Pressac's thesis in 1982:  WITHOUT)

     Krema II:  planned WITHOUT

     Krema V:  planned WITH (Pressac's thesis in 1982:  WITHOUT)

     Krema III:  planned WITHOUT


     Neither logic nor chronology can be served by such caprice and such
incoherence.

-----

                   The "Circus Act" of Krema IV and V

     Had he been honest, the author would have begun the section he devotes
to Krema IV and V by recalling his interpretation of 1982.  At that time,
he maintained in _Le Monde juif_ (op. cit.) that these two Krema had been
planned WITHOUT criminal intent, as simple crematoria; then, later, the
Germans had carried out improvisations in order to transform certain rooms
there into homicidal gas chambers.  In 1985 the author was still sticking
to this thesis (Colloque de l'Ecole des Hautes Etudes en sciences sociales
[Francois Furet and Raymond Aron], _L'Allemagne nazie et le genocide juif_,
Gallimard/Le Seuil, 1985, p. 539-584).

     But in the present work Pressac makes a 180-degree turn, giving his
reader no warning other than after the fact, in veiled terms at that (p.
379, 448).  Since Pressac is always confused, readers will be unaware of
why he held his former thesis (that these Krema were planned WITHOUT
criminal intent), or what led him to adopt a new thesis, diametrically
opposed to the earlier one (these Krema were planned WITH criminal
intent).^2

     The author's embarrassment is considerable.  One wonders if he
wouldn't be happy to send to the devil the history of these two Krema IV
and V which--he insists on this point--should not have worked because they
were so badly designed and constructed that the ovens were quickly out of
service (p. 384, 420).

     He writes that at the end of May 1944 most of the members of the
Sonderkommando who lived in a section of the Men's Camp at Birkenau--and
therefore, he adds in passing, openly and publicly--were transferred "to
Krema IV, which was converted into a dormitory for them" (p. 389).

     In the Holocaust literature the revolt of the Jewish Sonderkommando,
which set fire to Krema IV out of despair at having gassed and burned
masses of their co-religionists, is presented as a page of heroism.  For
his part Pressac doubts the "veracity" of this story and writes that Krema
IV was only a dormitory at that time and that


     this rebellion was an act of despair on the part of prisoners who were
     overcrowded and underoccupied, who had seen too much and felt that
     their end was near (p. 390).


     As one will see right away, the layout of the premises was such that,
at Krema IV and V, it would have made a mockery of a homicidal gassing
operation.

     Let's take either of these two Krema.  To start with, since there was
no undressing room, the crowd of victims is supposed to have been led into
the morgue, where bodies were already piled up.  There, the victims
undressed with the corpses in full view.  Then they were led into an
antechamber, and next a corridor.  Wisely, they passed the doctor's office,
then a coal storage room.  Next, at the end of the corridor, they were
divided up between two "homicidal gas chambers," each equipped with a coal
stove which was fired from the corridor.  Then an SS man, stationed outside
the building, is supposed to have poured the granules of Zyklon B through
shutters on the roof.  Due to the height, he had to use a ladder.  He had
to position the ladder and climb up for each shutter; he would open the
shutter with one hand and empty the contents of the Zyklon can with the
other.  Quickly, he would close the shutter and go on to the next.  At the
next he would move all the more quickly because, HCN being lighter than
air, the emissions from the granules from the first made the operation more
dangerous, even if our SS man was wearing a gas mask.

     At the end of the operation, he would have had to ventilate these
rooms at length and with care.  Given the small size of the shutters and
the absence of any sort of equipment for ventilation, one can't see how the
operation could be carried out.  The doors would have to be opened, and
thus the antechamber, the doctor's office, etc.  The corpses would have to
be removed from each of the two gas chambers; then dragged the length of
the corridor and past three successive doors to end up... in the morgue,
where presently other prospective victims would be arriving.

     In his 1982 study in Le Monde juif (op. cit., p. 126), Pressac wrote:
"This improvisation is stupefying," concluding:


     So, it becomes obvious:  KREMATORIUM IV AND V WERE NOT PLANNED AS
     CRIMINAL INSTALLATIONS BUT WERE CONVERTED INTO SUCH [Pressac's
     capitals].


     In the great opus under review, he makes obscure reference to his
feelings of "1980"; he says that at that time he found that the operation
was "illogical to the point of absurdity" (p. 379).

     Nine years later, has our pharmacist finally arrived at either
explaining this operation, "illogical to the point of absurdity," or
discovering that the Germans in fact used a different procedure, one
logical, sensible, explicable?  Not at all.

     He begins by relating that the SS took note of the fact that their
procedure "had become irrational and ridiculous" (p. 386).  The SS gasser
had to pour the Zyklon B through six openings (Pressac considers that there
were three gas chambers, not two, the hall doing service as the third!).
This SS man, he states, had to go up or down his ladder no fewer than
eighteen times while wearing his gas mask.

     According to our guide, after two or three gassings carried out in
this fashion, the Bauleitung (Construction Office) determined that natural
ventilation was dangerous and that the method of introducing the poison
resembled "a circus act."

     For ventilation a door was installed which resulted, Pressac assures
us, in preventing the west wind from blowing the gas in a dangerous
direction and which allowed the rooms to be ventilated only by the north or
south winds.

     As to the procedure for introducing the gas (the "circus act"), that
remained the same, except that the shutters were widened by 10 centimeters.
Pressac writes, in all seriousness, that


          The method of introduction remained the same, however, the camp
     authorities considering that a little physical exercise would do the
     medical orderlies responsible for gassing a world of good.


     Here, as elsewhere, our pharmacist shows marvelous aplomb, telling his
story without supplying his reader a reference to any evidence whatsoever.



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Where has he seen, for example, that the camp authorities (which?  when?)
decided that the "circus act" was absurd but that "a little physical
exercise would do the medical orderlies responsible for gassing [the Jews]
a world of good"?

     One of the constants in Pressac's writings is the stupidity which the
SS demonstrated by its boasts.  He uses this to explain many of the
anomalies, absurdities, and ineptitudes in the stories of homicidal
gassing.  It is curious that he apparently doesn't suspect that this
"stupidity" could be attributed precisely to those who describe to us the
activities of the SS gassers in such fashion.  Or yet again, since all
these operations are supposed to be tinged with stupidity, is it the SS's
stupidity or that of Pressac himself?

     Lastly, it is surprising that before concluding that Krema IV and V
definitely had homicidal gas chambers, he didn't wonder whether they didn't
simply house showers or delousing chambers.  I have in my archives a sketch
of Krema IV and V, after a plan which I entrusted to him; I see written
plainly in our subject's handwriting the words "Showers 1" and "Showers 2"
at the places he calls the homicidal gas chambers today.  And, on his third
gas chamber, I read "Corridor."

-----

- Regarding a time sheet indicating the make-up of a crew constructing a
chimney for Krema IV or V, Pressac comments that "the composition of the
gang employed is typical, with 12 civilians and 20 prisoners working as
bricklayer's laborers" (p. 412); so there was no possibility of secrets on
that side either;

-----

     I also have, by Pressac, a two-volume study which he entitled
_Auschwitz, architecture paisible_  (Auschwitz, Peaceful Architecture).  It
concerns Krema IV and V.  It is extremely disordered and has never been
published.  My copy is marked No. 2.  The dedication page is laughable:
Pressac, offering his services to all comers, launches into flattery
addressed to certain Exterminationists as well as certain Revisionists.  I
come in for my share of these compliments, which are laid on too thick to
be sincere.

-----

   - Krema IV and V:  What were coal stoves doing in the gas chambers?

-----

     In 1982, I reviewed Pressac's study on Krema IV and V at Birkenau.  I
entitled that review:

          The Myth of the "Gas Chambers" Enters Its Death Agony

     To this review, which I wrote in 1990, I could give the following
title:


                  The Death of the "Gas Chamber" Myth

     In the media, this myth manages to survive somehow or other; in
academic or scientific circles, it is dead.  Our "suburban pharmacist," as
Vidal-Naquet calls him, had offered himself as a savior; his magic potions,
in 1982, aggravated the patient's condition; and in 1989, that is, seven
years later, they have finished him off.

     I know Revisionists who, confronting a thesis so disastrous for
Exterminationism, wonder whether Pressac could be one of their own, and
working undercover, have hoodwinked the Klarsfelds.  I don't believe that
in the least.  Pressac is a neophyte, an autodidact, an innocent crossed
with a fox.  His personality is unstable; he is inconsistent, a weathercock
that turns with every wind.  He argues illogically and does not know how to
express himself either in speech or writing - a deficiency that would be
merely annoying in the exposition of a coherent thesis, but which here,
with an incoherent and hybrid thesis, becomes absolutely catastrophic.
Pressac isn't wearing any mask; it is his real face which we find
disconcerting.  For their part, the Klarsfelds lack discernment; they are
even blind.  They find it "normal" that, in certain cases, persons who
displease the Jewish community should be killed or seriously injured
(_Radio J_, 17 September 1989, Agence France Press, 1:36PM; _La Lettre
telegraphique Juive_, 18 September, p. 1; _Le Monde_, 19 September, p. 14).
The anguish of Serge and Beate Klarsfeld at the rise of Revisionism -
despite their awareness that it has access neither to money nor to the
public forum - is causing them to lose their judgement and their
self-control.  To the Klarsfelds, all means seem justified; every
assistance is welcome; any media operation can serve.  Pressac, driven away
by Faurisson, dismissed by Wellers, went on to offer his services to the
Klarsfelds.  He was hired.  This tedious tome must have cost them plenty.
But, if friends of the Klarsfelds paid for it dearly in money, its results
will cost them even more, which will be fatal for the Exterminationists and
providential for the Revisionists.


___________________________________________________________________________

5) Why are there cyanide traces in the Auschwitz gas chambers - including
   the chamber of Krema I, which you claim is a "fake"? Moreover, you 
   claimed that using HCN in that gas chamber would have been too dangerous. 
   However, it *was used* there, as the traces prove. Explanation? Same 
   question holds for the other gas chambers, of course.
___________________________________________________________________________



ANSWER TO QUESTION #5:


     As Dr. Franciszek Piper (senior curator of the Auschwitz State Museum)
has confirmed on videotape ("David Cole Interviews Dr. Franciszek Piper"),
Zyklon-B was used for disinfestation of "the buildings".  That explains the
barely-detectable levels found in some samples taken from the alleged
homicidal gas chambers and in other places (such as bathrooms).  To
disinfest buildings in that way would not have caused the same dangers or
difficulties that mass gassings of human beings would have caused, for
numerous reasons which have been enumerated at length elsewhere.  See in
particular the writings of Robert Faurisson and Fred Leuchter.

     Whoever wrote question #5 (Ken McVay?) misrepresents what I have
claimed.  I have not simply "claimed that using HCN in that gas chamber
would have been too dangerous."  The "questioner" is shooting at a "straw
man" argument.


___________________________________________________________________________

6) Do you really think that the SS could not handle - in 1943 - "technical
   difficulties" in using HCN for execution, "difficulties" which were
   overcome in 1920, when the first gas chamber used to kill people with
   HCN was built in the US?
___________________________________________________________________________



ANSWER TO QUESTION #6:


     Yes, I suspect the SS could have handled, in 1943, the "technical
difficulties" involved in using HCN for execution -- even for mass execution
-- should they have set out to do so.


___________________________________________________________________________

7) What do you make of the following document? What are the "special actions",
   that made the construction of the new crematorium building so urgent? Do
   you know that "special action" is another codeword for killing, and
   appears as such many times in SS and SD documents? (see second
   document below).

      Letter from Bischoff, head of construction management at Auschwitz, to
      the SS economic and administrative head office in Berlin, regarding
      construction at Auschwitz, 13 October 1942
      [Auschwitz: Technique and operation of the gas chambers - J.C Pressac,
      the Beate Klarsfeld Foundation, NY, 1989, p. 198]
      --------------------------------------------------------------------

      As regards the construction of the new crematorium
      building, it was necessary to start immediately in July
      1942 because of the situation caused by the special
      actions.

      Letter from SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Rodl to the inspector of 
      concentration camps, SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Liebehenschel, 14 
      November 1941
      [Hitler and the Final Solution - G. Fleming, University of California
      Press, 1984, p. 99]
      -------------------------------------------------------------------- 

      The Commandant's office has submitted to date two lists
      recommending the conferment of the Kreigverdienstkreuz [war
      service cross].  In both of these appear SS personnel who
      participated in executions.  We herewith request
      confirmation as to whether these names should be listed
      once again in the roll currently under preparation.
      Further requested is information as to whether in the
      recommendation lists under "reasons and comments of
      immediate superior" there should be specified "execution,
      i.e., special action" or whether a general, routine reason
      should be given.
___________________________________________________________________________



ANSWER TO QUESTION #7:


     "Special action" was not a "code-word", nor did it necessarily mean
"killing".  On page 210 of Jean-Claude Pressac's _Auschwitz: Technique and
Operation of the Gas Chambers_ is an example.  Pressac describes this



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example on page 213:


          On 17th December, the camp Gestapo, for reasons of security,
     undertook a <> (which probably in fact
     began the previous day) AMONG THE CIVILIAN WORKERS (of whom there were
     about 40 or 50 at worksite 30).  [NB: the term <> in
     this context means checks and interrogations among a specific category
     of person and has nothing to do with the selection of those fit for
     work and the gassing of the rest].  [...]


     A facsimile of the document in question (in German) appears along with
its English translation on page 210.  (By the way, the English translation
neglects to translate the words "der Gestapo".  This error changes the
meaning of the document.)

     The "special actions" referred to in the document were more than likely
actions intended to fight typhus epidemics, or the transportation of sick
and dying prisoners from other camps.

     If you insist on interpreting "special actions" and "special treatment"
as "code-words for killing", the burden is upon you to prove that they
always meant "killing".  Obviously, that is impossible, since I have already
provided several counter-examples.  Intellectual honesty thus compels you to
admit that they are not "code-words for killing", and to stop deceptively
interpreting them as such.


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8) What do you make of the following excerpts from the diary of SS Doctor
   Kremer? Now don't say these are "forgeries by Zionist Holocaustomanics";
   all the people you quote, such as Faurisson, agree it is genuine. Note,
   again, the use of the expression "special action":

      Notes From Diary of SS-Doctor Kremer, while in Auschwitz
      ['The Good Old Days' - E. Klee, W. Dressen, V. Riess, The Free Press, 
      NY, 1988, p. 256-268]
      ----------------------------------------------------------------

      2 September 1942

      3.00 a.m.  attended my first Sonderaktion.  Dante's Inferno
      seems to me almost a comedy compared to this.  They don't
      call Auschwitz the extermination camp for nothing!

      [Sonderaktion = special action]

      5 September 1942

      In the morning attended a Sonderaktion from the women's
      concentration camp; the most dreadful of horrors.  Hschf.
      Thilo -- army doctor -- was right when he said to me this
      is the 'anus mundi'.  In the evening towards 8.00 attended
      another Sonderaktion from Holland.

      ['anus mundi' is Latin for "the anal orifice of the world"]

      10 October 1942

      Extracted and fixed fresh live material from liver, spleen
      and pancreas...

      11 October 1942

      Today, Sunday, there was roast hare for lunch -- a real fat
      leg -- with dumplings and red cabbage for 1.25 RM.

      12 October 1942

      Second innoculation against typhus, later on in the evening
      severe generalized reaction (fever).  Despite this in the
      night attended a further Sonderaktion from Holland (1,600
      persons).  Ghastly scenes in front of the last bunker!
      That was the 10th Sonderaktion.

      13 November 1942

      Extracted fresh live material (liver, spleen and pancreas)
      from a previously photographed, severely atrophied Jewish
      prisoner aged eighteen.  Fixed as always, liver and spleen
      in Carnoy and pancreas in Zenker (Prisoner No.  68,030).
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ANSWER TO QUESTION #8:


     Again I emphasize that "special action" and "special treatment" were
NOT "code words for killing", as I have already demonstrated in my answers
to questions #1 and #7.

    The excerpt below, which answers your question, is taken from
"Confessions of SS Men who were at Auschwitz", by Robert Faurisson, from
_The Journal of Historical Review_, Vol. 2, No. 2 (Summer 1981).

-----

     Let us leave Ravensbruck and the confession of Schwarzhuber for
Auschwitz and the confession of Kramer, the other SS man who had "an
intelligent expression" as well as "the appearance and the behavior of a
psychologically normal man."  To begin with, let us look at some extracts
from his private diary written during his short stay at Auschwitz, and then
at the explanations that he gave to those extracts, after the war, to his
Polish jailers, explanations that he held to later on in 1960 at his trial
which took place at Munster (Westphalia) and at the trial of the Auschwitz
guards, in 1964, at Frankfurt-on-Main.  The name of Professor Doctor Kremer
should not be confused with that of Josef Kramer.  The latter had high
positions successively at the camp of Struthof-Natzweiler (Alsace), then at
Auschwitz-Birkenau, and finally at Bergen-Belsen.  In his case also there
were various confessions.  All are interesting to study.  On the alleged
homicidal "gas chamber" at Struthof, I would like to point out that the
French did not wring out of him, as I until recently still believed, only a
single confession but, as I have recently discovered, two totally absurd and
wonderfully contradictory confessions.  Of the one people sometimes speak,
while the other was carefully kept hidden.  I will some day speak about it,
as well as about the two reports of the French Military Couts on that "gas
chamber" at Struthof:  the one, really childish, which concludes on the
existence of "gassings"; and another one, which has disappeared from the
archives of the military courts, which reaches the opposite conclusion:
this report, dated 1 December 1945, was done by the eminent toxicologist,
Professor Rene Fabre.


 1.  EXTRACTS FROM THE DIARY OF DR. JOHANN PAUL KRAMER (DOCTOR AT AUSCHWITZ
     DURING THE SUMMER OF 1942), SELECTED AND PRESENTED BY THE OFFICIAL
     HISTORIANS (LEON POLIAKOV, GEORGES WELLERS, SERGE KLARSFELD,...)


     2 September 1942:  This morning, at three o'clock, I was present for
     the first time at a SONDERAKTION.  Compared to that, Dante's Inferno
     appears to be a comedy.  It is not without reason that Auschwitz is
     called extermination camp.
     [the version of Georges Wellers, in _Le Monde_, 29 December 1978, p8;
     the author explains beforehand that a SONDERAKTION is a "selection for
     the gas chambers."]

          At three o'clock in the morning, I was present for the first time
     at a "special action" (thus did they refer to the selection and murder
     in the gas chambers).  In comparison with the Inferno of Dante that
     seemed to me almost a comedy.  It is not without reason that they call
     Auschwitz and extermination camp.
     [the version of Serge Klarsfeld, in _Le Memorial de la Deportation des
     Juifs de France_ (Memorial to the Deportation of the Jews from France,)
     1978, p245; the author has obviously reproduced page 48 of a book (not
     dated) published in Poland by the International Auschwitz Committee
     under the title _KL Auschwitz; Arbeit Macht Frei_ (Concentration Camp
     Auschwitz/Work Makes You Free), 96 pages.]

     This morning at three o'clock, I was present for the first time at a
     "special action."  In comparison, Dante's Inferno appeared to me a
     comedy. It is not for nothing that Auschwitz is called an extermination
     camp.
     [Leon Poliakov's version, in _Auschwitz_, Collection Archives
     Gallimard/Julliard, 1973, p40].

     For this first date of 2 September, I have cited three versions.  For
the following dates, I will content myself with citing a single version:
the official version of the State Museum of Oswiecim (Auschwitz), such as it
appeared in _Auschwitz vu par les SS_ (Auschwitz Seen by the SS), French
translation, 1974.  I will confine myself intentionally only to what the
official historians have the habit of citing in their works and only to
what, in the eyes of the authorities of the State Museum of Auschwitz, would
tend to prove that Dr. Kremer had participated in the "gassings" of human
beings.

     5 September 1942:  This noon was present at a special action in the
     women's camp ("Moslems") -- the most horrible of all horrors.  HSCF.
     Thilo, military surgeon, is right when he said today to me we were
     located here in "ANUS MUNDI" [ANUS OF THE WORLD].  In the evening at
     about 8p.m. another special action with a draft from Holland.  Men
     compete to take part in such actions as they get additional rations
     then -- 1/5 litre vodka, 5 cigarettes, 100 grammes of sausage and
     bread.  Today and tomorrow (Sunday) on duty.

     On the next day, Dr. Kremer said that he had had an excellent lunch.
On numerous occasions, his diary contains in that way some remarks about
food.  Historians often cite these remarks to show the cynicism of the
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appetite.  Dr. Kremer mentions a special action of Sunday, 6 September at 8
o'clock in the evening, then on the evening of 9 September, then on the
morning of 10 September, then in the night of the 23rd and on that of the
30th.  He writes then:

     7 October 1942:  Present at the 9th special action (new arrivals of
     women "Moslems") [...]

     12 October 1942:  [...] was present at night at another special action
     with a draft from Holland (1600 persons).  Horrible scenes in front of
     the last bunker!  This was the 10th special action.

     18 October 1942:  In wet and cold weather was on this Sunday morning
     present at the 11th special action (from Holland).  Terrible scenes
     when 3 women begged to have their bare lives spared.

     8 November 1942:  This night took part in 2 special actions in rainy
     and murky weather (12th and 13th) [...]  Another special action in the
     afternoon, the 14th so far, in which I had participated [...]

     Dr. Kremer is wrong in his counting.  He has forgotten that on 5
September there had been not one but two special actions, which made a total
of 15 special actions for his stay at Auschwitz.  This stay lasted for 81
days, of which only 76 were on duty (because of a five day leave).

     The notes in the Polish edition say that the dates of these special
actions coincide with the dates of the arrival of the convoys of deportees.

[...]


 5.  EXTRACTS FROM THE DIARY:  MY EXPLANATIONS AND MY COMMENTARIES

     I note first that these extracts contain neither the word "gassing" nor
the expression "gas chamber."

     The diary of Dr. Kremer was a private diary.  The doctor expressed
himself freely there.  He frankly expressed his horror of the camp.  He does
not mince words.  He compares what he sees to a vision from Dante.  One can
therefore think that, if he had seen those virtual human slaughterhouses
which the "gas chambers" would have been, he would have mentioned that
absolute horror.  Wouldn't Dr. Kremer, as a scientist, at least have noted
some precise physical details about these slaughterhouses which, in the
history of science, would have been an amazing invention?

     But let us begin at the beginning.  Did Dr. Kremer in fact write what
they say that he wrote?  The answer to that question is NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
His text has been gravely distorted.  This is even the work of a forger.  As
an example I am going to reproduce the text in the version given by Georges
Wellers but I am going to insert in it, in capital letters, what he has
omitted and I am going to insert in place of SONDERAKTION and of
EXTERMINATION, which are misinterpretations, the two words which fit; I will
also put them in capital letters.  Therefore, here is the text translated
from the original German (see document NO-3408 in the National Archives):

     2 September 1942:  This morning, at 3 o'clock, I was present OUTSIDE
     for the first time at a SPECIAL ACTION.  Compared to that, Dante's
     Inferno appears TO ME ALMOST LIKE a comedy.  It is not without reason
     that Auschwitz is called THE camp of THE ANNIHILATION!

     Every text must be scrupulously respected, especially when the text is
supposed to serve as the basis for a shocking demonstration and for a
terrible accusation.  The concealing of the word OUTSIDE is very serious.
Why, after having given us the indication of the time, has the indication of
the place been concealed?  The German text says:  DRAUSSEN.  Dr. Kremer was
not in a closed place as a gas chamber would have been.  He was "outside,"
"on the outside."  Without doubt that detail is not very clear, and perhaps
it meant "out of the camp itself," but one must not conceal that
possibility.

     For SONDERAKTION, Wellers has kept the German word; in appearance, this
is evidence of scrupulousness and care; in reality, it is a clever trick.
As a matter of fact, this word, at least for a French reader, has a sound
that is disturbing, Germanic, barbaric, and can only conceal horrible
things.  But there is even more:  just before citing that entry by Dr.
Kremer, Wellers, in his article in _Le Monde_, wrote:  "[Kremer] had
participated in the selection for the gas chambers (SONDERAKTION)."  In
other words, Wellers imposes on his reader the following lie:  in his diary,
Dr. Kremer said in so many words:  "this morning at 3 o'clock I was present
at a selection for the gas chambers."

     We see very well now that it was nothing of the kind.  Dr. Kremer was
contented to speak of a "special action."  What is one to understand by that
expression?  To some people who, like me, doubt the existence of the
homicidal "gas chambers" it is absurd to answer, as does Wellers, by
positing their existence at once as an accepted fact.  Suppose that someone
does not believe in the existence of flying saucers.  To such a person one
could not retort that those saucers exist since, in such and such a report
by the police, it is written:  "A witness declares that he saw something
SPECIAL in the sky" -- "Some witnesses noted in the sky some UNUSUAL
phenomena."  Therefore, for the time being, the only honest -- if not very
clear -- translation of SONDERAKTION could only be "special action."  I will
later come back to the probable meaning of this word about which, for the
moment, we have no right to speculate.

     Dr. Kremer did not write next:  "Compared to that, Dante's Inferno
seemed to be a comedy" but "Compared to that, Dante's Inferno seemed TO ME
ALMOST LIKE a comedy."  Here, the concealing of three words by Wellers is
perhaps not very important, but it contributes in its modest way to doing
violence to the meaning of the text, always with a view to producing the
same effect.  There is a shade of difference between "seemed [almost] like,"
in which one senses a softening, and "seemed to be," which is more
affirmative.  Dr. Kremer has not transformed an impression which was
personal to him into an impression common to a whole human group.  In some
sense,  he did not state:  "Dante's Inferno appeared here to everyone around
me like a comedy"; if he had stated that, one could suppose that he was
present at an unquestionably Dantesque scene.  In reality, he contented
himself with a confidence of a personal kind and in effect he wrote:
"Dante's Inferno here appeared TO ME, who had just arrived (that impression
is personal to me, yet others can perhaps share it) ALMOST LIKE a comedy."
In other words, the scene is certainly horrible for this doctor who has just
arrived for the first time in his life in a concentration camp, but all the
same not to the point of decreeing that Dante's Inferno is obviously a
comedy to everybody in comparison with this scene.

     But there is something very much more serious that Georges Wellers has
made the Kremer text undergo.  Kremer did not say that Auschwitz was "called
an extermination camp," which, in the original German, would have been:
"genannt Vernichtungslager."

     In reality, we read in the original German:

     "gennant DAS Lager DER Vernichtung" ("called THE camp of THE
     annihilation").

     If Wellers had respected the presence of the two articles and if he had
given to "VERNICHTUNG" the meaning of "extermination" which is indispensible
to his exterminationist thesis, he would have gotten the following phrase:
"It is not without reason that Auschwitz is called the camp of the
extermination."  Thus constructed, the phrase sounds bizarre both in German
and in French.  That has to be for us the sign that a word of the text
undoubtedly has been badly translated.  That word, as will be seen later on,
is "Vernichtung."  The context will reveal to us that that word is not to be
translated as "extermination" (a meaning that it can very well have in other
contexts) but by "annihilation."  There is here no extermination, murder,
assassination, killing, nor massacre; there are not the results of an act,
an action, or a will; there is nothing here about a "camp where they
exterminate," there is here no "extermination camp" (an expression invented
by the victors, some years after 1942, to designate camps allegedly endowed
with "gas chambers").  What there is here in reality is an annihilation:
men and women are reduced to wasting away; they ware annihilated, reduced to
nothing by the epidemics and notably by that illness whose name "typhus" (in
Greek TUPOS) signifies precisely:  torpor, stupor, a kind of lethargy, a
rapid destruction of the faculties, sometimes up to the point of death.
Auschwitz is not "an extermination camp" (an anachronistic expression, and
we know that anachronism is one of the most reliable signs of the presence
of a falsehood) but the camp, yes, indeed, the camp PAR EXCELLENCE of
general annihilation.  Without doubt, just at the moment of taking his post
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know, this camp, they call it the camp of annihilation.  Look out for
typhus!  You yourself also take the risk of contracting it and dying from
it."

     And, at the end of his entry for 2 September 1942, Dr. Kremer puts an
explanation point.  That point indicates the doctor's emotion.  If one
conceals it, as does Wellers, the phrase takes on another tone:  one would
perhaps believe that the doctor is cruel and cynical.  One would perhaps
believe that Dr. Kremer coldly thought:  "The Auschwitz camp is called an
"extermination camp."  So it is.  It is indeed.  Let us take things as they
are."  In reality, he is overwhelmed.

     Due to lack of time, I cannot devote myself to the criticism of the
texts given by Leon Poliakov, by Serge Klarsfeld, by the authorities of the
State Museum of Oswiecim, by the official translation of document NO-3408,
etc.  I would only like to point out an especially serious fact.  It
concerns the German courts.  The court at Munster which, in 1960 tried Dr.
Kremer, quite simply skipped over the word DRAUSSEN when it reproduced the
entry of 2 September 1942.  It piled up other serious dishonesties.  Here is
an example of them:  to overpower Dr. Kremer, the tribunal appealed to the
"Calendar of Events at Auschwitz" as it was drawn up by the Communist
authorities in Poland.  It is already strange that a court in the western
world thus shows confidence in a document drawn up by Stalinists.  But there
is more.  The courts have established that, for most of the convoys that
arrived in the camp, the Polish in their "Calendar" indicated with
extraordinary precision the number of persons "gassed."  Since we know that,
according to the Exterminationist standard literature the people "gassed"
were not the object of any accounting, of any counting, an honest man could
only be astonished to read in this "Calendar" that, from the time when Dr.
Kremer was at Auschwitz, they had, on such and such a day, "gassed" 981
persons and, on another day, 1594 other persons.  Also, the court at Munster
cynically used a subterfuge.  It reproduced in its text numerous citations
of the "Calendar", making it clear that it was a question of this
"Calendar," but...each time that the "Calendar" uses the word "VERGAST"
("gassed"), the court itself substituted for that clumsy word the word
"UMGEBRACHT" ("killed").  Thus the reader of the judgement at Munster is
deceived.  Whoever might find it suspect that they can talk to him about
"981 gassed" or about "1594 gassed", easily lets them talk to him about "981
dead" or about "1594 dead."

     Finally, two remarks about the entries other than that of 2 September:
(1) The expression ANUS MUNDI would not be appropriate, it seems to me, to
scenes of "gassings" but rather to a repugnant and nauseating scene of
groups of people fallen prey to disgusting diseases, to dysentery, etc.
(2) When Dr. Kremer says that he was present at a special action in rainy,
cold weather or in grey and rainy autumn weather, it is probable that those
actions took place outside in the open air, and not in a gas chamber.


 6.  THE TRUTH OF THE TEXTS:  AUSCHWITZ AS PREY TO EPIDEMICS DURING THE
     SUMMER OF 1942.

     It is sufficient to read the diary with a minimum of good faith in
order to see the evidence.  Here is the complementary information that this
diary gives us.  I will summarize it.  Dr. Kremer came to Auschwitz to
replace a sick doctor there.  Typhus had ravaged not only the camp, but also
the German-Polish city of Auschwitz.  Not only the internees were struck,
but also the German troops.  There was typhus, malaria, dysentery, tropical
heat, innumerable flies, and dust.  The water was dangerous to drink.
Diarrhea, vomiting, stomach aches made the atmosphere stink.  The scene of
people reduced to nothing by typhus was demoralizing.  In that hell, Dr.
Kremer himself contracted what he called "the sickness of Auschwitz."
However, he underwent several vaccinations, at first against exanthematic
typhus, then against abdominal typhus (a name which, in itself, would
explain very well the term ANUS MUNDI).  The principal bearer of typhus is
the louse.  On 1 September 1942, he wrote:  "In the afternoon was present at
the gassing of a block with ZYKLON B against lice."  ZYKLON B is stabilized
hydrocyanic acid.  That product is still used today throughout the entire
world.  Many documents prove to us that that disinfection operation was
delicate and could demand the presence of a doctor to bring help, should the
occasion arise, to certified personnel charged with carrying out the gassing
of a barrack and, 21 hours after the beginning of the airing out of such a
barrack, testing for the disappearance of the hydrocyanic acid before
permitting people to return to live in their barracks.  On 10 October 1942,
the situation was so serious that, for everyone, there was a quarantine of
the camp.  The wife of the OBERSTURMFUHRER or STURMBANNFUHRER Casar died of
typhus.  All of the city of Auschwitz was in bed, etc.  It is sufficient to
refer to the text of the diary.  For more details of that epidemic of the
year 1942, one can also consult the calender of the _Hefte von Auschwitz_
(year 1942).  In the _Anthology of the International Auschwitz Committee_,
Volume I, second part, page 196 (in the French edition), we read that the SS
physician Dr. Popiersch, head doctor of the garrison and of the camp, had
died of typhus on 24 April 1942 (four months before the arrival of Dr.
Kremer).  In Volume II, first part, published also in 1969, we read on page
129 and in note 14 on page 209 that the Polish physician Dr. Marian
Ciepielowski of Warsaw also died of typhus while caring for the Soviet
prisoners of war.

     The work of Dr. Kremer at Auschwitz seems to have been principally to
devote himself to laboratory research, to dissections, to anatomical
studies.  But it was also necessary for him to be present at some corporal
punishments and some executions.  He was not present at the very arrival of
the convoys, but, once the division between those fit for work and those not
fit for work had been made, he arrived, in a car with driver, from his hotel
room in Auschwitz (room #26 at the Train Station Hotel).  What took place
then?  Did he lead people into some "gas chambers" or to disinfection?  Let
us see below what they claim that he said first in 1947 to the Polish
communists; secondly, in 1960 to the court at Munster; and thirdly, in 1964
to the court at Frankfurt.

[...]

 8.  TEXTUAL CONFIRMATION OF THE CORRECTNESS OF THE REVISIONIST
     INTERPRETATION OF THE DIARY OF DR. KREMER

     On page 42 of _Justiz und NS-Verbrechen_ we learn that in the trial at
Munster, in 1960, Dr. Kremer had had someone appear as a witness for his
defense.  That witness was a woman whose name began with Gla.  (German law
authorizes that, in a public document, certain names may be revealed only in
abridged form.)  That name was very probably that of Miss Glaser, the
daughter of Dr. Kremer's housekeeper; one about whom he speaks on several
occasions in his diary.  The witness brought to the court some post cards
and some letters that the doctor had sent to her at the time of his stay in
Auschwitz.  The witness said that the doctor "had not been in agreement with
what took place at Auschwitz" and that he had hurried to leave that camp.
Miss Gla[ser] then put into evidence a letter of 21 October 1942 that Dr.
Kremer had sent to her.  The content of it is of extreme importance, which
apparently eluded the tribunal.  It proves that, when Dr. Kremer spoke of
the Auschwitz camp as a hell, it was indeed as I have said, because of the
typhus and the other epidemics.  Here are the very words used by the doctor
in his letter:

     I don't really know for certain, but I expect, however, that I'll be
     able to be in Munster before 1 December, and thus finally turn my back
     on this hell of Auschwitz where, in addition to the typhoid, and so on,
     typhus has once again broken out strongly...

     Here is therefore that "Dante's Inferno" from the entry of 2 September
1942!  Professor of Medicine Johann Paul Kremer had seen the horrors of a
formidable epidemic at Auschwitz wiping out internees and guards; he had not
seen monstrous "gassing" operations, exterminating crowds of human beings.

[...]

NOTES

     I reproduce here the text of the entry of 2 September 1942 (Diary of
Johann Paul Kremer) after the photocopy of the original as it is found in
the National Archives in Washington (Doc. #NO-3408).  Some Exterminationist
works reproduce the photograph of this entry among other entries from the
diary.  But the reader has little chance to go about deciphering each word
of the German handwriting of Dr. Kremer.  He will be inclined to have
confidence in the printed reproduction that they will propose to him, for
example, in the margin; that is the case with _KL Auschwitz, Arbeit Macht



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Frei_, edited by the International Auschwitz Committee, 96 pages (not
dated).  On page 48 there appears a photograph of a manuscript page of the
diary on which are found three entries relating to five dates (1 through 5
September 1942).  In the margin, you discover the alleged printed
reproduction of the single entry of 2 September.  That reproduction appears
in French, English and German.  In French and English the text is
outrageously distorted.  In German, it was very difficult to distort the
text in a similar way since the photocopy of the manuscript is available to
the reader.  But we must have unlimited confidence that the
Exterminationists will falsify texts that embarrass them.  The International
Auschwitz Committee has found a solution thanks to a typographical trick.
After the word SONDERAKTION the authors of the book have printed in the same
typeface the following parenthesis, as if it were from Dr. Kremer:  "So
wurde die Selektion und das Vergasen genannt" ("Thus did they refer to
selection and gassing").  Either the reader, as is highly probable, will not
notice the difference between the manuscript text and the printed text and
then will believe it to be a confidence imparted by Dr. Kremer, which will
appear to him to be all the more normal since, according to an
Exterminationist myth, the Nazis spent their time inventing a coded language
in order to cover up their crimes; or else the reader will see the
difference between the texts and then the authors will plead a simple and
innocent typographical error.  Serge Klarsfeld, as I said above, has used
this fallacious page in his _Memorial of the Deportation of the Jews from
France_.  It is thus that historical tricks are spread and perpetuated.
Here is the original manuscript text in its authentic form:

     Zum 1.  Male draussen um 3 Uhr fruh bei einer Sonderaktion zugegen.  Im
     Vergleich hierzu erscheint mir das Dante' sche Inferno fast wie eine
     Komodie.  Umsonst wird Auschwitz nicht das Lager der Vernichtung
     genannt!

Finally, here is the text of the passage from the letter of 21 October 1942
addressed to Miss Gla[ser]:

     [...]  Definitiven Bescheid habe ich allerdings noch nicht erwarte
     jedoch, dass ich vor dem 1. Dezember wieder in Munster sein kann and so
     endgultig dieser Holle Auschwitz den Rukken gekehrt habe, wo ausser
     Fleck usw. sich nunmehr auch der Typhus machtig bemerkbar macht...

I reproduce the text with its errors in punctuation and spelling.


___________________________________________________________________________

9) You have posted articles claiming that humans cannot be killed
   with the exhaust of diesel engines. I posted here, many times,
   the results of a series of experiments conducted by British
   researchers, and reported in a respected scientific journal,
   which proved that the exhaust of a tiny 6 BHP diesel engine
   can be lethal to animals. Do you still maintain that squeezing
   people into a chamber and having a 500 BHP engine - like those
   used in Treblinka - pump fumes into it, will not be, let's say,
   hazardous to the health of these people? (You will find the journal
   citation for the British tests in my Leuchter FAQ, which is posted
   monthly to alt.revisionism, and which is available via my listserver.)
___________________________________________________________________________


ANSWER TO QUESTION #9:


     Again, you are shooting at another "straw man" argument.  Contrary to
what you say, I have never claimed that "humans cannot be killed with the
exhaust of diesel engines."  In fact, the report I transcribed and posted on
the subject said just the opposite.  Below are portions of text excerpted
from "The Diesel Gas Chambers: Myth Within a Myth", by Friedrich Paul Berg,
published in _The Journal of Historical Review_, Vol. 5, Number 1 (Spring
1984):

-----

     Although it would be most convenient for the revisionist camp in the
holocaust controversy to be able to say that mass-murder could not possibly
have been committed with Diesel exhaust in half an hour, that simply cannot
be said with total accuracy.  It must be conceded that it would have been
remotely possible to commit the deeds in question with Diesels.  However, it
would certainly have required an inordinate amount of expertise and
determination and, for all their efforts, the would-be murderers would have
had an arrangement which at best (worst?) would still have been only
marginally effective at its morbid task.  From a practical perspective the
whole idea of perfecting a Diesel arrangement for such a purpose would have
been contrary to all common sense.

[...]

     The information gaps are bad enough; what is far worse is that the bits
and pieces of information which one DOES find are simply incredible.  To
kill people with gas is not inherently incredible since it certainly does
happen, even accidentally.  But if one carefully examines the available
information about the German gas chambers from a scientific, medical or
technical perspective, he soon realizes that he is dealing with an absurd
muddle.  To characterize the alleged mass-murder methodology as
"hare-brained," "crackpot," or simply "weird" is to understate the
situation.  The more one examines what little information there is, the more
obvious it becomes that the people who repeat the holocaust story in one
form or other really have no idea as to what they are talking or writing
about.  The testimony of the so-called eyewitnesses is especially weird.
The Gerstein statement, which has been widely accepted by the holocaust
specialists, is probably the best example of such testimony.  But the other
"statements" or "confessions" are almost as bad or worse.

     The absurdity of the various alleged extermination methods does not in
itself prove that the holocaust did not happen, but it should at least
persuade reasonable people to ask for some other evidence before they let
themselves believe such a monstrous tale.  The fact that other evidence such
as documents ordering the killing of Jews with gas, or hard, physical
evidence such as workable gas chambers--not just ordinary rooms that have
been mislabeled--is also absent should make it quite obvious that something
is seriously wrong.^1

[...]

     According to the exterminationists, the nasty deed was always done in
less than half an hour.  In order to determine how much carbon monoxide
would be needed to kill in only half an hour, instead of a full hour, one
can use the widely accepted rule of thumb known as "Henderson's Rule," which
is:

     % CO x (exposure time) = Constant for any given toxic effect.

In other words, for any given toxic effect, the poisonous concentration must
be inversely proportional to the time of exposure.  This means that to kill
in half an hour, one would need twice the concentration that one would need
to kill in a full hour.  Applying this rule to the "0.4% and above" needed
to kill in "less than one hour," we get 0.8% and above as the concentration
needed to kill in less than half an hour.^13

[...]

     The important consideration is always the "average" concentration over
the entire exposure period and not some quantity of poison measured in
pounds or cubic feet.  To try to analyze the problem by determining actual
quantities of CO produced, rather than "concentrations," would be futile
since the little that one is told, in the case of Gerstein's description,
about the actual size of the chamber or chambers is so incredible to begin
with.

[...]

     If Gerstein had claimed that the carbon monoxide was generated by
gasoline engines, his story might be more credible.  [...]


NOTES

1.   The "gaschambers" that one is shown today in Dachau, Auschwitz and
     elsewhere are practically nothing more than ordinary rooms which could
     not have been used to kill in the manner alleged.  The Diesel gas
     chambers in Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor were all supposedly destroyed
     long before the end of the war.

[...]

13.  F.E. Camps, _Medical and Scientific Investigations in the Christie
     Case_ (London:  Medical Publications Ltd., 1953), p. 170.

-----

     I direct you to read the entire article from which the above text is
excerpted.  It would be impractical to duplicate all of the relevant
portions of it here.  The article (including illustrations) is available
from Banished CPU's FTP Mail Server.

     As in so many other areas, this is an area in which you have persisted
in making false claims about what revisionists are saying, even after you
have been corrected repeatedly.  I repeat:  We have NOT claimed that "humans
cannot be killed with the exhaust of diesel engines."  I believe the reason
you resort to shooting down such "straw man" arguments and making ad hominem
attacks is because you cannot refute our actual arguments.



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You write that you have:

     [...] posted here, many times, the results of a series of experiments
     conducted by British researchers, and reported in a respected
     scientific journal, which proved that the exhaust of a tiny 6 BHP
     diesel engine can be lethal to animals.  Do you still maintain that
     squeezing people into a chamber and having a 500 BHP engine - like
     those used in Treblinka - pump fumes into it, will not be, let's say,
     hazardous to the health of these people? (You will find the journal
     citation for the British tests in my Leuchter FAQ, which is posted
     monthly to alt.revisionism, and which is available via my listserver.)

And in your "Leuchter FAQ", which you refer to above, you write:

-----

 2.16: Fumes from a diesel engine are not toxic enough to kill
       people.  (This claim is made with regard to the death camp of
       Treblinka - see file with ruling of German courts on this.  In
       other death camps, gasoline engines were used. The method of
       killing was simple - people were crammed into the gas chambers,
       and the exhaust of powerful engines was pumped into them).

   Nonsense.  In a closed chamber, of course diesel fumes will kill.
   There was actually a study on this, and its results are reported in
   "The Toxicity of Fumes from a diesel Engine Under Four Different
   Running Conditions", by Pattle et al., British Journal of Industrial
   Medicine, 1957, Vol 14, p.  47-55.  These researchers ran a few
   experiments in which various animals were exposed to diesel fumes,
   and studied the results.

   In the experiments, the exhaust of a small diesel engine (568 cc, 6
   BHP) was connected to a chamber 10 cubic meters (340 cubic feet) in
   volume, and the animals were put inside it.  In all cases, the
   animals died.  [...]

-----

     Again I ask you:  Where you have seen it claimed that "Fumes from a
diesel engine are not toxic enough to kill people"?  As the report by
Friedrich Paul Berg (cited above) demonstrates, diesel exhaust can cause
death under certain carefully controlled circumstances, after certain
periods of exposure.

     Mr. Berg has graciously provided me with a copy of the report you cite.
You blatantly and seriously lied about the report you cite!  The British
report you cite, by Pattle et al, supports Berg's article completely!

     Even in the most lethal of the 4 experiments, it still took 3 hrs and
20 minutes to kill all the animals in D1 and 4 hrs 35 minutes in D2.  The
article and your question #9 show that you are a liar, or that you have
simply not read your own reference material.  Although you claimed that "In
all cases, the animals died," experiment A shows that no animals at all
died, even after 5 hours of exposure!

     Even though, as Berg wrote in his article, "According to the
exterminationists, the nasty deed was always done in less than half an
hour," NONE of the British tests caused the animals to die within that
amount of time!  NOT EVEN CLOSE!

     As I said, the British report you cite AGAINST Berg's article supports
Berg's article completely!

     Many people are killed, accidentally or otherwise, by gasoline
automobile engines.  Newspaper clippings of these events abound.  I
challenge you find a newspaper clipping which details a similar death by a
diesel engine.


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10) What do you make of the following letter, in which it is
    suggested that cellar no. 1 of Kremas II and III in
    Auschwitz be preheated? Some Nazi crackpot "revisionists"
    claim this room was a morgue. If so, why preheat it? It is
    stupid to heat a morgue, right? On the other hand, it makes 
    sense to preheat a gas chamber using Zyklon-B, as it makes
    the gassing process more efficient. Also, what is the "undressing
    room" mentioned in the letter (and in many other documents)?

      Letter from SS-Sturmbannfuehrer Jahrling to Topf & Sons, March 6 1943
      [Auschwitz: Technique and operation of the gas chambers - J.C Pressac,
      the Beate Klarsfeld Foundation, NY, 1989, p. 221]
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------

      Subject: KL Auschwitz Krematorien II and III

      In accordance with your suggestion, the service agrees that
      cellar 1 should be preheated with the air coming from the
      rooms of the 3 forced draught installations.  The supply
      and installation of the ductwork and blowers necessary to
      this end are to be effected as soon as possible.  As you
      point out in your above-mentioned letter, execution should
      commence this week.  We would ask you to send in triplicate
      detailed quote for supply and installation.

      At the same time, we would ask you to send an additional
      quotation for the modification of the air-extraction
      installation in the undressing room.
___________________________________________________________________________



ANSWER TO QUESTION #10:


     To answer these questions, I again quote from Jack Wikoff's review of
Jean-Claude Pressac's _Auschwitz: Technique an Operation of the Gas
Chambers_, printed in _REMARKS_ issue #2:

-----

    In 1942-43 Auschwitz-Birkenau and other camps were suffering from
epidemics of typhus and other infectious diseases.  On December 28, 1942 an
urgent order had gone out from Reichsfuehrer-SS Heinrich Himmler that the
death rate "be reduced at all costs".*  An attempt to convert Leichenkeller
I into a disinfestation chamber in early 1943 is consistent with these
urgent disease-control programs being implemented by the German armed forces
in wartime Europe.

*  Gerald Reitlinger, _The Final Solution_, 2nd ed., Vallentine, Mitchell,
London, 1968: pg 127; Nuremberg document 2172-PS.

     The clothing on cadavers brought into the underground morgues was
frequently infested with disease-carrying lice.  If more corpses were in
storage than could be handled quickly by the ovens, then these corpses might
also have had to be disinfested, ideally in the same building.

     Also, in March 1943 an attempt was made to provide heat, when needed,
to the basement of the Crematoria, by divering it with fans and ducts from
the crematory ovens.  (p. 223)  Unfortunately one of the forced-draught
motors caught fire and caused considerable damage.  The idea of heating for
the basement was consequently dropped.

     Since the hydrogen cyanide in Zyklon B has an evaporation point of 78.3
degrees F., this temperature must be reached for a room to function either
as a disinfestation or homicidal gas chamber.  But these underground morgues
were designed to stay cool to prevent decomposition of cadavers.

     Thus the difficulty of effectively heating these rooms may have been a
reason to abandon use of them as disinfestation chambers.  The forensic
samples taken in the ruins of these basement rooms by Fred Leuchter indicate
that very small amounts of Zyklon B were used there, amounts inconsistent
with regular use as disinfestation or homicidal gas chambers.  Also the
gas-tight doors may have been retained to keep noxious smells contained
within the rooms.

[...]

     -  A worker installing the ventilation systems for Crematoria Two and
Three referred to Leichenkeller II as the "undressing room".  (pp. 432-438)
(In each building there were three basement rooms designated on the original
drawings as morgues.)

     Pressac interprets something sinister from this, claiming this room was
where those about to be gassed were persuaded to disrobe before going into
Leichenkeller I to shower (and were gassed instead).  But Leichenkeller II,
in its true function as a morgue, was also the first room in which clothed
corpses would have been unloaded to be undressed, searched for money,
precious metals and gold teeth.  This may have been repugnant but certainly
not homicidal.

-----


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