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>>FREDRICK TOBEN'S 1996 CHRISTMAS CORRESPONDENCE WITH JAMIE MCCARTHY 
>>
>>On 21 December 1996 Fredrick Toben sustained a five day email correspondence
>>with Jamie McCarthy. Here is Toben's final letter to McCarthy. It contains
>>McCarthy's concluding remarks made in his 24 December letter:
>>
>>Jamie McCarthy: ...........As long as you respect those wishes of mine, 
>>you are welcome to publish your wild speculations and your lies about me,
>>which you enumerated in your previous email.  I've been lied about
>>before, and I'm sure many people will lie about me in future. 
>>It doesn't bother me as long as the truth is readily available. 
>>As long as you provide prominent links to what I actually said, and
>>people are easily able to see that you're dealing in inventions and 
>>conjecture, I have no worries that the truth will out.
>>
>>Of course, I don't have any way to make you respect my wishes;  if you 
>>want to lie about what I've said and not make my own words easily 
>>available, I can't stop you.
>>========================================
>>
>>My dear Jamie
>>
>>It is Christmas day and contrary to your expressed views I think my exercise
>>has been a success. Many individuals who do not accept the Holocaust dogma
>>feel the way you now feel  - not being listened to, lied about, misquoted,
>>ridiculed, ignored and hurt. You are fortunate in that you have a sharp mind
>>and a means of expressing and ventilating your thoughts to a wider audience.
>> 
>>How would you feel, what would you think, if I had the power  to stop you
>>expressing your thoughts on the Holocaust dogma? 
>>
>>What would be your response if I now imposed legal sanctions  on your work?
>>Say, five years prison or a $50.000 fine, or both, for your asserting that
>>the homicidal gas chambers did exist, i.e. reverse the claim and have the
>>official dogma  state that the gas chambers did not exist?
>>
>>How would you like to be terrorised - physically attacked, house burnt down,
>>parcel bombed, taken through the expensive court system to break down your
>>physical and mental resistance to alien ideas - for upholding your right not
>>to investigate the non-homicidal gas chamber dogma?
>>
>>EMPATHETIC UNDERSTANDING - what if?
>>
>>Jamie, I call on your empathetic understanding and perhaps, if you have the
>>time, you could answer the following  for me:
>>
>>1. What if you had a friend, an Auschwitz survivor, who tells you that he
>>never saw the homicidal gas chambers but that he had been through the
>>showering and hair cutting process without incurring any harm at all?
>>
>>2. What if your Auschwitz survivor friend tells you about the swimming pool
>>that he swam in while living at the camp?
>>
>>3. What if your survivor friend tells you about the cultural life of the
>>camp which  included listening to classical music played by the camp
>>orchestra, and for those who needed it, a visit to the  brothel?
>>
>>4. What if your Auschwitz survivor friend tells you that he could not
>>publish his story because no publisher was interested in hearing from an
>>Auschwitz survivor who did not talk about the "gas ovens",  without
>>mentioning the homicidal gas chamber story ?
>>
>>5. What if your survivor friend tells you that he cannot openly talk about
>>his brother who spent the entire war years on a farm outside Berlin because
>>after the war his brother claimed to have been incarcerated at Auschwitz -
>>and that this claim has been financially honoured by the German government?
>>
>>6. What if your survivor friend tells you that  his parents officially died
>>at Auschwitz when in fact his mother recently died in New York and his
>>father in Jerusalem?
>>
>>7. What if your survivor friend tells you that the only nasty persons in the
>>camp were the Jewish Kapos, those who were in charge of running internal
>>camp matters?
>>
>>8. What if your survivor friend tells you that, until the typhoid epidemic
>>swept through Auschwitz, the camp was a reasonably civilized place which
>>naturally had the usual social problems found in any large township community?
>>
>>9. What if your Auschwitz survivor friend tells you that a number of his own
>>Auschwitz survivor friends have been telling lies for many years about the
>>alleged homicidal gas chambers that they claimed existed at Auschwitz?
>>
>>10. What if your survivor friend tells you that he has received anonymous
>>death threats because he wrote a few letters to the newspapers wherein he
>>questions the veracity of the Holocaust dogma, in particular the alleged
>>homicidal gas chamber story?
>>
>>11.What if your Auschwitz survivor friend tells you that most of his former
>>inmate friends are bitter people who now pathologically hate anything German?
>>
>>12.. What if your survivor friend tells you that The Rudolf Report -
>>download available from Adelaide Institute's site - contains the latest
>>forensic findings which conclusively refute any claim that Auschwitz had a
>>homicidal gas chamber facility? Would you support the legal persecution that
>>Rudolf is now suffering at the hands of the German government? How would you
>>explain it to your children that Germar Rudolf is the father of two small
>>children and that he, together with his wife, is now on the run from German
>>justice because he did not wish to spend 14 months in prison for having
>>written an honest objective report which demolishes the holocaust dogma?
>>
>>13. What if your Auschwitz survivor friend tells you that about four weeks
>>ago, respected German historian, Professor Hans Mommsen, publicly claimed
>>that Hitler didn't really want the war and that Hitler seemed to have
>>slipped into it? 
>>
>>
>>Thank you for participating in this exercise, Jamie, and contrary to what
>>you have stated,I believe that we have had a good productive dialogue.
>>Kindest regards and all the best for the festive season.
>>
>>Fredrick Toben
>>Adelaide Institute
>>
>>============================
>>
>>RECIPIENTS, and readers of this correspondence, greetings to you. Please
>>feel free to post this correspondence on your site.1996 has been a
>>productive year for us. We have succeeded in opening up encrusted thought
>>patterns - desperation is setting in as the legal screws are applied in a
>>frenzy to the protesters, the dissenters, the heretics of the holocaust dogma.
>>
>>I shall have a hearing before our Human Rights Commission before March 1997
>>and shall vigorously defend the allegations brought before it by the
>>Executive Council of Australian Jewry, who is merely acting on behalf of the
>>Los Angeles based Simon Wiesenthal Centre who, in turn, is acting on behalf
>>of World Jewry. I am not claiming that this is a conspiracy. What we have
>>here is merely people acting in concert. 
>>
>>Let us therefore, in 1997, produce for the world stage a wonderful
>>revisionist concert - and salute those brave individuals who in their own
>>way and at considerable personal expense and sacrifice dared to challenge
>>the Holocaust dogma:
>>
>>Conscious of my own failings in not offering a complete list, I think of
>>Paul Rassinier, Harry Barnes, Robert Faurisson, Arthur Butz, Fred Leuchter,
>>Ernst Zundel, Wilhelm Staglich, Thies Christophersen, Ditlieb Felderer, Udo
>>Walendy, Gunter Deckert, Germar Rudolf, Jim Keegstrar, Malcolm Ross, Achmed
>>Rahmi, Doug Collins, Friedrich Berg, Henry Roques, Charles Weber,  Hans
>>Schmidt, Manfred Junger, John Bennett, Andreas Rohler, Hans-Dietrich Sander,
>>Peter Topfer, Georges Piscoci, Michael Hoffman, David Irving, Ingrid
>>Rimland, Mark Weber, Greg Raven, Jurgen Graf, Bradley Smith, David Cole,
>>Carlo Mattogno, Robert Countess, John Sack, Serge Thion, Marc Lemire,
>>Wigbert Grabert, and the many individuals who have stood behind those whose
>>names appear above.
>> 
>>In the latter category there are the legal eagles who accepted the
>>challenges knowing full well that they will never recover their legal costs
>>from the proceedings in defending Holocaust heretics, such as Doug Christie,
>>Hajo Herrmann, Ed Wall, Herbert Schaller,  Some members of the legal
>>fraternity have spent over $100,000 of their time - all for free, for the
>>cause in which they believe. Some have not even been thanked for their
>>unpaid work!
>>
>>It is appropriate at this point to spare a thought for Professor Israel
>>Shahak who, only the other day, has had his home raided by Israeli security.
>>We immediately think of Mordecai Vanunu who, for over a decade, has
>>languished in solitary confinement - with his mind and will-power still
>>in-tact! But a decade fades into insignificance if we recall Rudolf Hess'
>>sentence - then to be dispatched by strangulation.
>>
>>Let us also during the festive season offer a prayer of forgiveness for
>>public prosecutor Klein of Mannheim for being so misguided in his zealous
>>pursuit of Holocaust heretics. 
>>
>>We should now extend our commiserations to Deborah Lipstadt, Gerald Fleming,
>>Raul Hilberg, Christopher Browing, Gitta Sereny, Eberhard Jackel, Wolfgang
>>Benz, Michael Wolfsohn, Konrad Kwiet, Heinz Kent and the ever dwindling
>>number of individuals who are faced with the daunting task of upholding the
>>Holocaust dogma.Their strength lies in having at their disposal unlimited
>>funds and public sympathy.
>>
>>To all those who are taking part in this final intellectual adventure of the
>>twentieth century let me extend my personal hopes that 1997 will be an
>>extraordinarily productive year for revisionists.
>>
>>Fredrick Toben
>>Adelaide Institute
>>
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