From holman@katk.helsinki.fi Sat Jun 8 07:17:53 PDT 1996 Article: 41773 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news2.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!globe.indirect.com!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!nntp.primenet.com!winternet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!nntp.inet.fi!news.funet.fi!news.helsinki.fi!eng18.pc.helsinki.fi!user From: holman@katk.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) Newsgroups: alt.california,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.oj-simpson,alt.revisionism,alt.skinheads,soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Jews = Communism. Read it and weep from U.S. Archives Date: 7 Jun 1996 18:08:08 GMT Organization: University of Helsinki Lines: 36 Message-ID:NNTP-Posting-Host: eng18.pc.helsinki.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.california:25854 alt.politics.nationalism.white:21902 alt.politics.white-power:31437 alt.rush-limbaugh:103716 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:317632 alt.fan.oj-simpson:49407 alt.revisionism:41773 alt.skinheads:27052 soc.culture.african.american:119214 In article <31B66623.418B@usaor.net>, Ian McKinney wrote: > > I'll bypass the well known fact that Karl Marx was a Jew. That > can be discovered in any library. You obviously understand the word 'Jew' in a different way than many other people do. Karl Marx, as the erudite postings here by Craig Lambert (thanks for going to the trouble to ferret all that material out, Craig), was anti-Jewish to the point of being a pathological anti-Semite. There's no denying the fact that Karl Marx was born into a home with a German-Jewish heritage. The same is true for the great German composer Felix Mendelssohn. But heritage, unlike race, is something you either accept or reject; unlike race, it's not genetically programmed into you. Thus, both Mendelssohn, by converting to Christianity, and Marx, by rejecting all religion and going to considerable lengths to tell the world what was wrong with religion in general ('the opium of the people') and with each specific major religion in excrutiating detail, rejected their Jewish heritage and thus their Jewishness. It was only with the advent of Nazi racial ideology that being German and being Jewish were seen as mutually exclusive. Mendelssohn considered himself a German composer, as did his contemporaries, and Marx considered himself a German philosopher, as did *his* contemporaries. Or are you going to counter my argument with the claim that Mendelssohn and Marx were 'self-hating Jews', and that their work is not a part of German culture even if in both cases it fits in perfectly with the continuing streams, respectively, of German music and German philosophy? If you are, then I feel that you are obligated to explain to me why you do not such a distinction between German Catholics and German Protestants (or do you?), even though a few centuries ago they massacred each other with as much gusto as the Nazis massacred Jews. Regards, Eugene Holman
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