From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Fri Dec 27 11:37:33 PST 1996 Article: 89239 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!laslo.netnet.net!node2.frontiernet.net!usenet.logical.net!dciteleport.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!mindspring!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.137.48.149!news7.agis.net!agis!newsgod1.agis.net!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Patriots should use PGP Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:03:53 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 37 Message-ID: <32c41c44.705175@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <19961225184120.18355.qmail@nym.alias.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host52.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.security.pgp:3628 alt.politics.nationalism.white:40893 alt.revisionism:89239 On 25 Dec 1996 18:41:20 -0000, anonwrote: >If you have a fast PC, use nothing less than a 2047 bit public/secret >key (RSA) - You want to make ZOG's job as difficult as possible - >RIGHT. (Yep, lets be a bit paranoid here and go the full gamut, it only >costs a few extra seconds of processor time to use 2047) PGP is over rated. It is no more secure than 128 bits EVER. Although 128 bits is a lot, it is not impossibly difficult for someone with sufficient resources. If you read the description of PGP, the process is simple: 1) Generate a random key of 128 bits. 2) Encode your data with the IDEA algorithm using the 128 bit key. 3) Encode the random keyword with public key encryption of any size. 4) Package the encoded random key with the IDEA-encoded message. At best, PGP offers 128 bits of security. Who cares how many bits you use to encode your password if your message is only encoded with 128 bits? >Make sure you have a decent passphrase, study the PGP passphrase FAQ, >which can be requested on alt.security.pgp Although PGP is one of the best publicly-available encryption techniques, it is still not all it is made out to be. The primary benefit of the PGP system is the convenience that public-key encryption offers plus the security of the 128-bit IDEA algorithm. You could encode your passphrase with a million bits and it would still be no more secure than 128 bits. 14 Words, Art LeBouthillier From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Fri Dec 27 11:37:34 PST 1996 Article: 89240 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.win.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!laslo.netnet.net!node2.frontiernet.net!usenet.logical.net!dciteleport.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.137.48.143!news1.agis.net!agis!newsgod1.agis.net!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.culture.hawaii,soc.culture.indonesia,alt.japanese,alt.politics.white-power,alt.conspiracy,alt.revolution.american.second,alt.revolution.counter,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: DEATH OF AMERICA AND HOW IT AFFECTS YOU. Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:08:20 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <32c41e57.1236463@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <59mjoc$vb@fiji.easyway.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host52.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.culture.usa:102296 alt.culture.hawaii:27326 soc.culture.indonesia:30173 alt.politics.white-power:53665 alt.conspiracy:125068 alt.revolution.counter:6871 alt.revisionism:89240 On Mon, 23 Dec 1996 12:44:04 GMT, Mail100@hotmail.com (max) wrote: >American society is flooded with problems. Our schools have gone to >hell. The WASP values which built this land into the most powerful >nations has been devalued and replaced with the judio-values which in >the last 30years have all but failed this nation... 14 Words: We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. The only solution is White revolution. Arthur LeBouthillier From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Sat Dec 28 09:13:59 PST 1996 Article: 89507 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!laslo.netnet.net!node2.frontiernet.net!usenet.logical.net!dciteleport.com!worldnet.att.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.137.200.41!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Patriots should use PGP Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:43:37 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 48 Message-ID: <32c53f9f.890977@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <19961225184120.18355.qmail@nym.alias.net> <32c41c44.705175@news.cyberg8t.com> <32C56488.24AD@kami.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host27.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.security.pgp:3643 alt.politics.nationalism.white:41066 alt.revisionism:89507 On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:18:48 +0000, Paul Sharrock wrote: >Arthur Ed LeBouthillier wrote: > > > >128 bit's get your act together. Wrong, wrong and wrong Listen up dickweed, thou knowest not about which you talk. >128 bit's get your act together. Wrong, wrong and wrong Your message is only EVER encoded with a 128 bit password. Like I said, you need to understand how PGP works. There are two passwords: PASSWORD A - which is a 128-bit Random string generated each time and which is used in the IDEA algorithm. PASSWORD B - which is a user-specified length derived by a hash algorithm from the user's passphrase. The Idea algorithm is a 128-bit keyword cypher (PASSWORD A) that is used to encode your message (let's call it CYPHERTEXT A). PASSWORD B is then used to encrypt PASSWORD A using the public key encryption algorithhm, producing CYPHERTEXT B. Note: only PASSWORD A is enciphered with a 1024-bit or 2048-bit encryption algorithm derived >from RSA PKE to produce CYPHERTEXT B. So, the result is that you have a composite message composed of CYPHERTEXT A and CYPHERTEXT B. PGP_MESSAGE = ( CYPHERTEXT_B, CYPHERTEXT_A ) CYPHERTEXT_A = IDEA( PASSWORD_A, YOUR_MESSAGE) CYPHERTEXT_B = PKE( PASSWORD_B, PASSWORD_A) As you can see, your message is only encoded with the IDEA algorithm which is a 128-bit algorithm. You can read the literature yourself. But your message text is only encoded using a 128-bit algorithm. The chief advantage of PGP is the ability to take advantage of Public Key Encryption techniques in a 128-bit security environment. 14 Words, Art From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Sat Dec 28 09:14:00 PST 1996 Article: 89511 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!laslo.netnet.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!in-news.erinet.com!en.com!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.culture.hawaii,soc.culture.indonesia,alt.japanese,alt.politics.white-power,alt.conspiracy,alt.revolution.american.second,alt.revolution.counter,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: DEATH OF AMERICA AND HOW IT AFFECTS YOU. Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:53:11 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <32c54212.1517836@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <59mjoc$vb@fiji.easyway.net> <32c41e57.1236463@news.cyberg8t.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host27.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.culture.usa:102412 alt.culture.hawaii:27330 soc.culture.indonesia:30178 alt.politics.white-power:53804 alt.conspiracy:125395 alt.revolution.counter:6880 alt.revisionism:89511 On Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:12:23 -0500, schwartz@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect) wrote: >In article <32c41e57.1236463@news.cyberg8t.com>, pendragn@cyberg8t.com >(Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) wrote: >> >> [ Deletia] >> >> 14 Words: We must secure the existence of our people >> and a future for White children. > >5 words: You are a racist idiot. 5 words: You are an anti-racist idiot. 14 Words: We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. Love, Art From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Sat Dec 28 10:10:03 PST 1996 Article: 41075 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!204.137.200.41!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.equality,alt.politics,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.immigration,alt.revolution.american.second,alt.revolution.counter,alt.politics.youth,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.correct Subject: Re: Diversity is a fact of life; get used to it Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:56:41 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 38 Message-ID: <32c542d7.1714936@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <32BEDBFB.40D9@novagate.com> <59q3og$1tf@keelung.transend.com.tw> <59qv38$217@is05.micron.net> <59tvub$3en@chaos.dac.neu.edu> <32C2D9F3.3042@conterra.com> <5a1t91$1qj$1@nadine.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host27.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.politics.nationalism.white:41075 alt.politics.libertarian:246025 alt.revolution.counter:6882 alt.politics.usa.constitution:109170 alt.politics.white-power:53805 alt.politics.correct:168198 On 28 Dec 1996 01:31:13 GMT, cfaatz@teleport.com (Chris Faatz) wrote: >Bob Whitaker (bwhit@conterra.com) wrote: >: Philip Kasiecki wrote: >: > >: > In article <59qv38$217@is05.micron.net>, >: > Brian Smith (sbrian@micron.net) wrote: >: > : Once multiracialism runs its course the nation will be a cross between >: > : India, Africa, and Mexico. >: > >: > I challenge Brian to prove this. >: > >: > : I'd rather have my kids grow up in a safe, civilized, and progressive >: > : White environment with low-crime than one of your beloved multiracial >: > : filth-holes. >: > >: > I challenge Brian to provethat a non-White environment is inherently >: > crime-ridden. >: > >: > Phil Kasiecki > > >: Get out of your Politically Correct school environment and look around, >: dumb-dumb. > >Gee, what a brilliant and devastating intellectual comeback. > >I second Phil's challenges. It's called a strawman. The original poster never made the statement that such environments are "inherently" crime-ridden (whatever that means). Therefore, both Phil's and your retort are retarded. That they may be "de-facto" crime-ridden might be provable but I'm not making that statement. 14 Words, Art LeBouthillier From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Sat Dec 28 16:28:06 PST 1996 Article: 89614 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nol.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!cliffs.rs.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.137.200.41!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Patriots should use PGP Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:52:52 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 79 Message-ID: <32c5b0d3.648444@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <19961225184120.18355.qmail@nym.alias.net> <32c41c44.705175@news.cyberg8t.com> <32C56488.24AD@kami.com> <32c53f9f.890977@news.cyberg8t.com> <5a4a94$1qi@Networking.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: host58.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.security.pgp:3651 alt.politics.nationalism.white:41122 alt.revisionism:89614 On 28 Dec 1996 15:25:24 -0800, rcgraves@disposable.com (Rich Graves) wrote: >This really isn't untrue, as far as it goes. It's just that >it doesn't mean what Art thinks it means. "Only 128 bits" >is not a weakness, and probably won't be for decades. Now you're pretending to know what I "think it means?" If you didn't understand my intent, don't pretend to understand my meaning. >Art, Dear: > >A 128-bit key means 2^128 possible keys. I understand. > [ Deletia] >The cost would go down if other planets contributed, of >course. > >That accomplishment would enable you to read exactly one >PGP-encrypted message, since the IDEA key is different >every time. > >In other words, I think you need to reevaluate your >threat profile. Planting a camera or keyboard sniffer, >or infiltrating your organization, or nuking your city >from orbit costs far less than brute-forcing 128 bits. I understand. >ASSUMING THERE ARE NO SYSTEMATIC WEAKNESSES IN THE >ALGORITHM OR IMPLEMENTATION THAT MAKE A PURE BRUTE-FORCE >ATTACK UNNECESSARY. This is why cryptographers insist on >published source code. "Assuming there are no systematic weaknesses in the algorithm..." granted. I'm not saying that there are such weaknesses, however, all I'm saying is that PGP has no more than 128 bits of security. I think that is more than sufficient for most needs. I also believe that IDEA is preferable to DES. My main point was that you could have a key with a million bits and you would have no more than 128 bits of security with PGP. My intent was only to ensure that the users understand the "weaknesses" and not think that they have truly increased their security by using 2048 bits of encryption. >As a matter of fact, there are potential cyclical >vulnerabilities in RSA that make it much less strong than >IDEA, and some problems with PGP's random-number >generation procedures have been identified. But it's far >from "broken." See the PGP and sci.crypt FAQs. Tim May's >cyphernomicon rant is also recommended. I understand. >HTH. HAND. > >[white-power crap elided] > >P.S. My math was done in my head and on a cheap pocket >calculator that only supports basic arithmetic on >8-digit integers, so it's possible I lost or gained an >order of magnitude somewhere. Let me know. That's fine. My main point was that there are limits to the security offered with PGP. It is still an apparently useful product and I highly recommend its use for everything including dirty jokes to your friends, and other myriad uses with little or no security needs (as long as good key handling techniques are used). After all, traffic analysis is made more difficult in an environment of widespread usage of encryption. 14 Words, Art From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Sun Dec 29 12:52:34 PST 1996 Article: 89844 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!swrinde!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.137.200.41!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Patriots should use PGP Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:18:30 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 38 Message-ID: <32c6c348.14406148@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <19961225184120.18355.qmail@nym.alias.net> <32c41c44.705175@news.cyberg8t.com> <32C56488.24AD@kami.com> <32c53f9f.890977@news.cyberg8t.com> <851788998snz@mist.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: host48.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.security.pgp:3661 alt.politics.nationalism.white:41253 alt.revisionism:89844 On Sat, 28 Dec 96 16:03:18 GMT, io1o@mist.demon.co.uk (Iolo Davidson) wrote: >In article <32c53f9f.890977@news.cyberg8t.com> > pendragn@cyberg8t.com "Arthur Ed LeBouthillier" writes: > >> Your message is only EVER encoded with a 128 bit >> password. > >True as far as it goes, but the relative strengths of a bit of >RSA and a bit of IDEA are *not* the same. You need about 3000 >bits of RSA to make the RSA layer (the public key encryption of >the IDEA key) as strong as the fixed 128 bit IDEA key. I was not aware of the security relationships between the two. I appreciate you informing me of it. >If you used a 128 bit PGP key, the overall encryption would be >pathetically weak. RSA keys as large as about 430 bits have >already been broken (by factoring) for demonstration purposes. >No one claims to be able to break IDEA, and it is not vulnerable >to the same type of attack. Granted. I was aware of some of the weaknesses of RSA but not of the particular aspects. It was merely my intent to convey a warning to potential users. On that basis, one should use as large a PGP password as possible (and practical) while being aware that beyond a certain point no increased security is offered. >A CHRISTMAS HUG THE WOMAN > A BIRTHDAY KISS WHO GIVES THIS > AWAITS Burma-Shave Kisses and hugs, Art From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Sun Dec 29 12:52:35 PST 1996 Article: 89846 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!laslo.netnet.net!node2.frontiernet.net!usenet.logical.net!dciteleport.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.137.48.149!news7.agis.net!agis!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Patriots should use PGP Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:31:54 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 38 Message-ID: <32c6c6d5.15315675@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <19961225184120.18355.qmail@nym.alias.net> <32c41c44.705175@news.cyberg8t.com> <32C56488.24AD@kami.com> <32c53f9f.890977@news.cyberg8t.com> <851788998snz@mist.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: host48.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.security.pgp:3662 alt.politics.nationalism.white:41256 alt.revisionism:89846 On Sat, 28 Dec 96 16:03:18 GMT, io1o@mist.demon.co.uk (Iolo Davidson) wrote: >In article <32c53f9f.890977@news.cyberg8t.com> > pendragn@cyberg8t.com "Arthur Ed LeBouthillier" writes: > >> On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:18:48 +0000, Paul Sharrock >> wrote: >> >> >128 bit's get your act together. Wrong, wrong and wrong >> >> Listen up dickweed, thou knowest not about which you talk. > >I'm afraid that you are the one who does not know what he is >talking about. Blah, blah, blah. >> Your message is only EVER encoded with a 128 bit >> password. > >True as far as it goes, ... Exactly. My statement is true. > ...but the relative strengths of a bit of > RSA and a bit of IDEA are *not* the same. You need about 3000 > bits of RSA to make the RSA layer (the public key encryption of > the IDEA key) as strong as the fixed 128 bit IDEA key. Not relavent to my point. >If you used a 128 bit PGP key, the overall encryption would be >pathetically weak. RSA keys as large as about 430 bits have >already been broken (by factoring) for demonstration purposes. >No one claims to be able to break IDEA, and it is not vulnerable >to the same type of attack. From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Sun Dec 29 12:52:36 PST 1996 Article: 89847 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!laslo.netnet.net!node2.frontiernet.net!usenet.logical.net!dciteleport.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!mindspring!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.137.48.144!news2.agis.net!agis!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.culture.hawaii,soc.culture.indonesia,alt.japanese,alt.politics.white-power,alt.conspiracy,alt.revolution.american.second,alt.revolution.counter,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: DEATH OF AMERICA AND HOW IT AFFECTS YOU. Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:28:25 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 141 Message-ID: <32c6c5cf.15052817@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <59mjoc$vb@fiji.easyway.net> <32c41e57.1236463@news.cyberg8t.com> <32C5EDF8.41F3@voicenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host48.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.culture.usa:102544 alt.culture.hawaii:27339 soc.culture.indonesia:30187 alt.politics.white-power:53958 alt.conspiracy:125756 alt.revolution.counter:6897 alt.revisionism:89847 PREFIGURATIVE POLITICS AND THE WHITE COMMUNITY Our Movement is complex and varied. It harbors all manner of approaches to our people's survival. Despite this, there is much that we can learn from other social and political movements. There are many examples of nationalistic, ethnic revivalist, as well as separatist and sovereignty movements from which we can learn. One strategy which has recurred throughout such movements is what might be called "prefigurative" politics or that activism designed to create the goal society through incremental growth strategies. Our Movement too must learn about and apply prefigurative politics to our Cause. Prefigurative politics is a term coined by the left to describe their strategy of involving more people into an evolutionary process of transforming existing institutions into those that might exist in their goal society. The strategy is "...to create and sustain within the lived practices of the movement relationships and political forms that 'prefigured' and embodied the desired society"(Breines 1982, p 6). However, this is not a new concept since it is practiced by nearly every social movement. The early Irish nationalists had developed parallel social institutions prior to their independence which included their own police, courts, social support agencies and many other such institutions. German National Socialists had created a parallel government within their political party also with courts and help associations. Shining Path Communists in Peru have created their own government and social institutions including schools; in fact, students raised at those schools have been taught to believe that the communist leader is the real president of their country. The Palestinian liberation movement's success rests on the government which exists safely in regions other than Palestine. Under this government, Palestinians have developed whole industries, schools, and embassies. This approach of building our new society while in the process of loosening ourselves from the current one is one which we can apply well and with great success. PREFIGURATIVE POLITICS IN AMERICA Pre-figurative politics in America must entail the development of all societal institutions and the necessary infrastructure so that we can displace the centralized government of this corrupt republic with our own pro-White institutions. By using the full extent of liberties and resources available, great strides can be made towards developing pro-White institutions and infrastructure. Among the first institutions to develop must be the basic communications and media institutions. By providing alternative nationalist media, our basic political precepts and premises can be communicated to large numbers of people. If these media are complete enough to meet most of peoples' information and entertainment needs, then we can enculturate them with our political and cultural ideals and viewpoints while denying them to our opposition. Our nationalist media will also act as a recruiting element if it is positive and wholesome. Greater numbers will see the positiveness that White nationalism stands for and understand its legitimacy and importance. Such simple things as book, magazine, and video publishing and distribution businesses should be developed within the next few years in every major city in America. This will ensure the steady supply and accessibility of White nationalist materials. Perhaps some of the most important classes of institutions which need to be developed are think-tank and foundational organizations which study the theoretical issues of White society and develop visionary outlooks, policies and strategies for our leadership. It is from these idea-originating institutions that our political leadership will find the necessary vision as well as substantive background information necessary for making better decisions. Our political organizations must promote positive engagement and role-taking among their members so that there will be a steady supply of pro-White activists. These activists must be shown the positive activies that they can perform which will benefit our community. Activists should seek to fill all of the roles that a society needs, but the few key areas must discussed here must have higher priority. Activsts must become book writers, magazine editors, video producers, and business entrepreneurs. Educational institutions in the form of private schools must also be developed. Educational institutions perform two vital societal functions: socialization and education. Although today's schools are bad enough with regard to their educational functions, it is the socialization function which is perhaps the most damaging to White society. In public schools Whites are not taught their own national identity but are instead indoctrinated with the universalist multi-cultural doctrine. Nationalist schools must be developed which stress cultural identity and national idealism. However, these schools must also set high value on developing capable students who excel in the four R's: Reading, Writing, Arithmetic and Reasoning. Numerous other social groups must be developed which seek to enculture all of our people with good ideals and form them into an organized community dedicated to national freedom. For the youth, there should be organizations similar to the boy and girl scouts. These associations will enculture our youth with our ideals while developing important skills and habits in a cooperative White environment. Teenage and young adults should be provided with militia organizations which further their nationalist education while teaching them discipline, perseverence and service to their nation. For fathers and mothers, husbands and wives, numerous organizations with other like-interested people should be developed so that a true cooperative White community develops. There must be an two-fold strategy of developing economic infrastructure and business culture. We must identify those key industries that will provide important economic bases for business of all types. We must work at developing and systemitizing our business acumen so that it can be perfected and communicated to entrepreneurs in our community. Realizing that money is one form of power, we should do business so that there is a net buildup of a pro-White economic infrastructure. Of course, this must be done in such as way as to maintain compliance with anti-discrimination laws. BENEFITS OF PREFIGURATIVE POLITICS By adopting prefigurative political strategy, we will accomplish several important steps leading to our self-determination. First, we will create a positive, growing White community which is an example for all to see. Second, we will ensure the existence of substantive power structures which will be able to displace the power structures of the corrupt U.S. republic. Third, we advance our people's interests now, before we attain independence. Fourth, we will be able to reach out and embrace greater numbers of people who would otherwise be unable or unwilling to sacrifice their personal interests by joining a revolutionary-based movement. Fifth, every bit of growth of the White community will legitimize our political statements while discrediting and delegitimizing the corrupt republic and its integrationist, multicultural ideals. SUMMARY Prefigurative politics entails building up a White community within multi-cultural America. Under this strategy, all types of instituions and infrastructure are developed which separates us from the non- and anti-White society. It provides many benefits which are unattainable in other ways. It is a strategy that we must employ in advancing our nationalist cause. Copyright 1996 by Arthur Edward LeBouthillier All rights reserved. From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Sun Dec 29 12:52:37 PST 1996 Article: 89849 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.mag-net.com!aurora.cs.athabascau.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.137.48.149!news7.agis.net!agis!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.culture.hawaii,soc.culture.indonesia,alt.japanese,alt.politics.white-power,alt.conspiracy,alt.revolution.american.second,alt.revolution.counter,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: DEATH OF AMERICA AND HOW IT AFFECTS YOU. Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:24:51 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 123 Message-ID: <32c6c4f5.14835622@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <59mjoc$vb@fiji.easyway.net> <32c41e57.1236463@news.cyberg8t.com> <32C5EDF8.41F3@voicenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host48.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.culture.usa:102548 alt.culture.hawaii:27340 soc.culture.indonesia:30188 alt.politics.white-power:53962 alt.conspiracy:125763 alt.revolution.counter:6898 alt.revisionism:89849 On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:05:12 -0500, Don Medon wrote: > Bravo Arthur... > > so now..how do we do it ? Boy! Will you be sorry you asked for my opinion! I would say that the answer is obvious but not simple. Additionally, it will require a long-term approach based on incremental growth and improvement. HOW TO THINK ------------ To think properly about this task, we must refresh ourselves on several terms. Although you may think it pedantic, I think it is necessary to provide a framework for discussing what we must do. We must understand that goals are properly fashioned into a hierarchy so that some goals reflect the top-most goal to be accomplished while other sub-goals represent milestones to attain the larger goal. Additionally, we must understand that, as individuals, we play a smaller part in the accomplishment of our national ideals. Individually, we assume roles and accept personal responsibility for the accomplishment of a part of a larger program. I call this "Seeing the need and assuming the responsibility." First, a _MISSION_ is a statement of intent, of the goal one wishes to achieve. A good mission statement will reflect the important aspects by being abstract enough to cover all important details and subgoals but specific enough as to provide some guidance. A _STRATEGY_ is the approach one takes to accomplish the mission. The link between missions and strategies are not deterministic: there are usually several different strategies one might take to accomplish the mission. The particular strategy chosen reflects one's own values and brings to bear a myriad of different sub and correlated goals. An _OPERATION_ is a specific group of activities which taken together work toward the accomplishment of a part of the milestones necessary to fulfill the mission in accordance with the chosen strategy. An expample operation is: produce a regular newspaper to educate our people on the conditions of their plight and how they might lift themselves upward towards national independence. A _TACTIC_ is a specific set of tasks from which an operation is constructed. Examples of tactics are: produce a January Edition of a newsletter. To understand the differences between "strategies" and "tactics," consider the following statement about the nature of guerrilla warfare by the good communist Mao Tse Tung (by a "good communist" I mean that he is dead): The Strategy of Guerrilla Warfare is to fight 1 against 10. The Tactic of Guerrilla Warfare is to fight 10 against 1. Hopefully this provides some insight into the hierarchical nature of missions, strategies, operations, and tactics. A Strategy provides an overall approach of what is to be done while a tactic provides the specific means by which the larger goal is to be accomplished. THE FRAMEWORK APPLIED --------------------- In the next few sections I will apply the framework outlined above to our own particular situation. The following reflects my own ideas on what the task is and how it should be accomplished. Realize that this is my own approach and I understand that there are other, necessary, approaches as part of a larger whole. THE MISSION: 14 WORDS --------------------- With regard to our mission, I would find the "14 Words" to be an acceptable one when certain factors are considered with it. The 14 Words, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children" is very general and represents an enduring mission (it is non-terminating). That is good because I don't think our mission EVER terminates. Unfortunately, it does not explain what it means for an existence to be "secured." In the racio-ethnic context, I take "secured" to mean "bound into a unique and seperate thriving racio-ethnic community dedicated to its own self-preservation" and I define "White" to be "those people of Celtic, Germanic and Slavic heritage who value that heritage as the basis of their society." THE STRATEGY: PREFIGURATIVE POLITICS/RESISTANCE COMMUNITIES ----------------------------------------------------------- There are several strategic options available. Without an extensive enumeration of them, they would include "revolutionary" strategies as well as "evolutionary" strategies. By revolutionary, I mean those activities which entail high degrees of risk of prison sentences, death or personal disfigurement. By evolutionary strategies I mean those activities which although risky in many ways do not entail a high degree of risk of prison sentences, death or personal disfigurement. Personally, I have chosen an "evolutionary" strategy. That strategy is best termed "prefigurative politics" which is defined in a following post. In my opinion, those of us who elect an "evolutionary" strategy must engage in prefigurative politics and the development of "resistance communities." I will explain the term "resistance communities" more completely in a following post. THE OPERATIONS: ---------------------------------------------------------- To explain my ideas on this basis, let me introduce a new term: "Resistance Community" a little bit. A Resistance Community is a unified association of like-minded nationalists working cooperatively to build a prefigurative society which they see as replacing the Foreign Community in which they find themselves. A resistance community is a complete social community which is able to provide the cultural needs of the people for which it represents. It provides cultural, social, educational, economic and political services which are necessary to maintain the nation. Being mindful of the overall strategy which the operations are to perform, the operations would include the development of alternate entertainment, education, political representation institutions. These would include alternate media like music, radio and television, as well as private schools. Therefore, to answer your question about "how do we do it?" I would say that we should organize ourselves as a resistance community and work cooperatively towards our common national existence and independence. I will expound on how this is to be performed in a following article. From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Mon Dec 30 10:00:49 PST 1996 Article: 90012 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!en.com!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.culture.hawaii,soc.culture.indonesia,alt.japanese,alt.politics.white-power,alt.conspiracy,alt.revolution.american.second,alt.revolution.counter,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: DEATH OF AMERICA AND HOW IT AFFECTS YOU. Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:22:18 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <32c7c1a8.507783@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <59mjoc$vb@fiji.easyway.net> <32c41e57.1236463@news.cyberg8t.com> <32C5EDF8.41F3@voicenet.com> <32c6c4f5.14835622@news.cyberg8t.com> <5a758m$jn@fiji.easyway.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host02.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.culture.usa:102647 alt.culture.hawaii:27342 soc.culture.indonesia:30190 alt.politics.white-power:54078 alt.conspiracy:126053 alt.revolution.counter:6909 alt.revisionism:90012 On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:20:50 GMT, mail100@hotmail.com (mail100) wrote: >you take out the garbage before you get booted from the trailer park. Laura!!!! Laura!!!! Did you see that! This fine anti-White exhibited a tendancy toward intolerance and bigotry towards Whites! Why, I'm appalled! >please email me at mail100@hotmail.com if you have anything to >add. Due to the large # of replies I usually get. I may not be >able to reply to all emails but I will do my best. I have a life >off the usenet too. Bugger off! Read the newsgroup like everyone else. 14 Words, Art From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Mon Dec 30 10:42:51 PST 1996 Article: 41328 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!laslo.netnet.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.uio.no!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.137.48.144!news2.agis.net!agis!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.equality,alt.politics,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.immigration,alt.revolution.american.second,alt.revolution.counter,alt.politics.youth,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.correct Subject: Re: Diversity is a fact of life; get used to it Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 06:15:25 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <32c75dd1.668228@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <32BEDBFB.40D9@novagate.com> <59q3og$1tf@keelung.transend.com.tw> <59qv38$217@is05.micron.net> <59tvub$3en@chaos.dac.neu.edu> <32C2D9F3.3042@conterra.com> <5a29lh$olm@keelung.transend.com.tw> <32C4BA21.59FD@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host60.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.politics.nationalism.white:41328 alt.politics.libertarian:246288 alt.revolution.counter:6906 alt.politics.usa.constitution:109432 alt.politics.white-power:54043 alt.politics.correct:168679 On Fri, 27 Dec 1996 22:11:45 -0800, Bt wrote: >I think the subject speaks for itself... >"Diversity is a fact of life; get used to it" >Or actually... >The need for diversity is... I would quite agree with you. Diversity is a fact of life; get used to it by walling it off whenever possible. By walls, I mean both social and physical. Cheers, Art From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Mon Dec 30 10:42:51 PST 1996 Article: 41376 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!en.com!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.immigration,alt.skinheads,alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy,alt.conspiracy,misc.immigration.usa,alt.politics.immigration,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,alt.society.anarchy,alt.anarchism,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.radical-left,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.republican,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.theory,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.flame.rush-limbaugh,soc.culture.europe,alt.nuke.the.USA,soc.culture.canada,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics.reform,alt.activism,alt.conspiracy,alt.folklore.military,alt.government.abuse,soc.couples.intercultural,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.europe,alt.fan.newt-gingrich,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.politics.correct,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.newt-gingrich,soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Powderkeg USA Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:26:30 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <32c7c2de.817936@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <32BCDF4D.7ABB@usa.net> <32bf449f.5639699@news.inetworld.net> <32c47d2d.2284495@news.inetworld.net> <32C6E9E0.32A8@prodigy.net> <32C77693.78FE@mail.idt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host02.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.culture.europe:52126 alt.politics.nationalism.white:41376 alt.skinheads:46975 alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy:52363 alt.conspiracy:126052 misc.immigration.usa:12906 talk.politics.guns:358747 alt.politics.socialism.trotsky:18097 alt.society.anarchy:39991 alt.fan.noam-chomsky:20321 alt.politics.libertarian:246338 alt.politics.radical-left:142574 alt.politics.usa.constitution:109476 alt.politics.usa.republican:350540 talk.politics.misc:531581 talk.politics.theory:98563 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:430553 alt.politics.democrats.d:163568 alt.nuke.the.USA:47960 soc.culture.canada:104232 alt.politics.reform:121580 alt.activism:108498 alt.folklore.military:9484 soc.couples.intercultural:18729 soc.culture.mexican:37887 alt.politics.correct:168774 alt.politics.economics:82607 alt.politics.usa.newt-gingrich:105186 soc.culture.african.american:133370 On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:00:19 -0800, Americanist Party wrote: [Deletia] >Power To The People! White Power to the White People! 14 Words, Art From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Tue Dec 31 09:10:39 PST 1996 Article: 90093 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!clicnet!news.clic.net!news.bconnex.net!news.abs.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!newspump.sol.net!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.137.200.41!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Patriots should use PGP Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:29:20 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <32c5ba08.3005476@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <19961225184120.18355.qmail@nym.alias.net> <32c41c44.705175@news.cyberg8t.com> <32C56488.24AD@kami.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host04.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.security.pgp:3678 alt.politics.nationalism.white:41431 alt.revisionism:90093 Anyways, Mr. Niko, my point was that you should always be careful when you are using cryptographic techniques and expect some kind of secrecy. PGP is a good enough product but even the best product can be countered with poor usage. Rich Graves, net-know-it-all and cyber-guru says "don't worry! Trust him!" and that you should not even give PGP usage a second thought. My point was that you should learn something about cryptography or else you may use it in an ineffective way. Used improperly, compromised cryptography can be deadly (ask the Japanese and Germans during WW2). For REAL security, you need to be aware of certain potential problems as well as keep abreast of technology. With those things in mind, cryptography can be a life saver. 14 Words, Art LeBouthillier From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Tue Dec 31 09:10:40 PST 1996 Article: 90131 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!thor.atcon.com!pumpkin.pangea.ca!eru.mt.luth.se!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mindspring.com!news9.agis.net!agis!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Patriots should use PGP Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 20:51:03 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 61 Message-ID: <32c6d86a.618279@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <19961225184120.18355.qmail@nym.alias.net> <32c41c44.705175@news.cyberg8t.com> <32C56488.24AD@kami.com> <32c53f9f.890977@news.cyberg8t.com> <5a4a94$1qi@Networking.Stanford.EDU> <32c5b0d3.648444@news.cyberg8t.com> <01bbf5be$16925220$92f00b26@i-charlej9.interramp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host45.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.security.pgp:3680 alt.politics.nationalism.white:41460 alt.revisionism:90131 On 29 Dec 1996 19:26:15 GMT, "Charles N. Johnson" wrote: >Key-size queens are prominent in all facets of crypto. You are quite right >to point out that the plaintext is encrypted with a 128-bit key, and that >if a person can break IDEA directly then the size of the public/secret key >pair is not relevant. Obviously they misunderstood my intent. >What I take it that you are trying to say is that there are diminishing >returns in having a very large PGP key. There is some size beyond which it >would be more profitable to attack the IDEA-enciphered message rather than >decipher the PGP encrypted session key. This is very true. And a point >often missed by people who don't stop to think about the relative >difficulties of deciphering a message at every point in the process from >encryption, to transmission, to decryption. If you keep your PGP pass >phrase on a post-it-note on your CRT, the world's best algorithm won't save >you, whether it is 128 bits, 2048 bits or a zillion bits. As someone has properly discussed, one only approaches the security of the 128-bit IDEA cipher with a 2000-bit RSA cipher. Therefore, properly, one should definitely use larger bit passwords. >Is IDEA, all by itself and without reference to the protocol in which it is >embedded and used (a very, very big *if*), stronger (choose your >definition) that PGP alone? Zimmermann says as much in the DOCS. The point >of PGP isn't the encryption/decryption scheme, it is the Key sharing >scheme. RSA has this property and IDEA does not. I agree and I said as much. It is a good program. All I wanted to convey was that there were limits to its security. As someone pointed out, that weakness lies in the public-key RSA portion. >So, the question, it seems to me, is the following: as of 1/1/97 where is >the break-even point in breaking RSA as opposed to breaking IDEA in any >given PGP message? It's a good question. I will accept someone's earlier statement that over 2000 bits of RSA is required. >Which echo my sentiments, and Phil Zimmermann's sentiments exactly. PGP is >very possibly the closest most of use will get to "military grade" >encryption. But used incorrectly, with keys handled incorrectly, without >thought as to the computer platform it is run on...PGP will make you feel >better, but that is all it will do. I wasn't trying to be contrite or anything, I was merely trying to convey some of the important ideas and limitations of PGP. I think that the caveats of the product should be realized by its users and then it should be used exactly as intended. That is why I suggested that my detractors read the literature that comes with it. To summarize: Patriots should use PGP but they should be aware of cryptographic realities if they want true "secrecy." Sincerely, Art From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Tue Dec 31 09:10:41 PST 1996 Article: 90227 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!clicnet!news.clic.net!wesley.videotron.net!news-dc.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-lond.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.137.48.149!news7.agis.net!agis!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Patriots should use PGP Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 03:37:00 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <32c889b2.3217045@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <19961225184120.18355.qmail@nym.alias.net> <32c41c44.705175@news.cyberg8t.com> <01bbf527$d50317e0$256badce@crc3.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host43.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.security.pgp:3681 alt.politics.nationalism.white:41514 alt.revisionism:90227 On 29 Dec 1996 01:32:42 GMT, "salweb" wrote: > Unless you can provide strongly documented evidence to the contrary, I > think yur statement that "PGP is over rated" is very incorrect. No, not at all. To be "over rated" means to be rated at a higher degree than it actually is. Like I said, some people think that they have thousands of bits of security when in fact they have no more than 128. That is all I've ever said and you can't twist that around to be something it is not. The issue is not whether or not 128 bits is secure enough, but whether or not PGP offers more than 128 bits of security. The game that all of my detractors seem to be playing is suggesting that I am implying something I'm not. > Just to the contrary, I think it offers excellent security if used >appropriately. I await your response, and the comments of others. I have said as much. 14 Words, Art From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Tue Dec 31 18:36:57 PST 1996 Article: 41581 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news-out.internetmci.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news-out.internetmci.com!dciteleport.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.magicnet.net!news.cdsnet.net!news.cyberg8t.com!not-for-mail From: pendragn@cyberg8t.com (Arthur Ed LeBouthillier) Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.immigration,alt.skinheads,alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy,alt.conspiracy,misc.immigration.usa,alt.politics.immigration,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,alt.society.anarchy,alt.anarchis Subject: Re: Powderkeg USA Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 22:52:13 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <32c998e2.387438@news.cyberg8t.com> References: <32BCDF4D.7ABB@usa.net> <32bf449f.5639699@news.inetworld.net> <32c47d2d.2284495@news.inetworld.net> <32C6E9E0.32A8@prodigy.net> <32C77693.78FE@mail.idt.net> <32c7c2de.817936@news.cyberg8t.com> <01bbf6d6$0b56e920$42a942cf@sgt-swine> NNTP-Posting-Host: host56.cyberg8t.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca soc.culture.europe:52283 alt.politics.nationalism.white:41581 alt.skinheads:47116 alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy:52529 alt.conspiracy:126570 misc.immigration.usa:12952 talk.politics.guns:359200 alt.politics.socialism.trotsky:18144 alt.society.anarchy:40086 On 31 Dec 1996 04:49:28 GMT, "Doug Munro" wrote: > .... 14 Words, Art
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