Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: The Mueller Dokument: Anatomy of a Forgery Archive/File: documents/mueller.report/mueller.001 Last-Modified: 1995/02/27 From: weirwolf@tyrell.net (Weirwolf) Subject: Mueller Document Message-ID:Organization: Tyrell Corporation - 800-TYRELL-1 - POP's in 504/816/913/316 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 01:35:25 GMT Lines: 129 THE MUELLER DOCUMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------- ABSCHRIFT Militarpolizeilicher Dienst Wien 1.10.1948 10. Ausfertigung R u n d s c h r e i b e n Nr.31/48 --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Die Alliierten Untersuchungskommissionen haben bisher festgestellt, dass in folgenden Konzentrationslagern keine Menschen mit Giftgas getoetet wurden: Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, Dachau, Flossenbuerg, Gross-Rosen, Mauthausen und Nebenlager, Natzweiler, Neuengamme, Niederhagen (Wewelsburg), RavensBruek, Sachsenhausen, Stutthof, Theresienstadt. In diesen Faellen konnte nachgewiesen werden, dass Ge- staendnusse durch Folterungen erpresst wurden und Zeugen- aussagen falsch waren. Dies ist bei den KV-Erhebungen und Einvernnahmen zu be- ruecksichtigen. Ehemalige KZ-Haeftlinge, welche bei Einvernahmen Angaben ueber die Ermordung von Menschen, insbesondere von Juden, mit Giftgas in diesen KZ machen, ist dieses Untersuchungs- ergebnis zur Kenntnis zu bringen. Sollten sie weiter auf ihre Aussagen bestehen, ist die Anzeige wegen falsher Zeugenaussage zu erstatten. 2. Im RS 15/48 kann P. 1 gestrichen werden. Der Leiter des MPD.: Mueller, Major Fuer die Richtigkeit der Ausfertigung: Lachout, Leutnant L.S. (Seal) F.d.R.d.A.: Republik Oesterreich Ich bestaetige hiemit, dass ich am 1.Oktober 1948 Wachbataillon Wien als Angehoeriger des militaerpolizeilichen Dienstes Kommando beim Alliierten Militaerkommando die Richtigkeit (Signature) der Pundschreiben-Ausfertigung gemaess 18 Abs.4 AVG beglaubigt habe. Wien 27 Oktober 1987 (Signature) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ #####English translation:######## ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Military Police Service COPY Circular Letter No. 31/48 Vienna, 1 October 1948 10th dispatch 1. The Allied Commissions of Inquiry have so far established that no people were killed by poison gas in the following concentration camps: Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, Dachau, Flossenbuerg, Gross- Rosen, Mauthausen and its satellite camps, Natzweiler, Neuengamme, Niederhagen (Wewelsburg), Ravensbrueck, Sachsenhausen, Stutthof, Theresienstadt. In those cases, it has been possible to prove that confessions had been extracted by tortures and that testimonies were false. This must be taken into account when conducting investigations and interrogations with respect to war crimes. The result of this investigation should be brought to the cognizance of former concentration camp inmates who at the time of the hearings testified on the murder of people, especially Jews, with poison gas in those concentration camps. Should they insist on their statements, charges are to be brought against them for making false statements. The Head of the MPS Mueller, Major Certified true copy: Lachout, Second Lieutenant L.S (Seal) C.t.c I hereby confirm that on 1 October Austrian Republic 1948, being a member of the Military Vienna Guard Battalion Police Service at the Allied Military Command Command, I certified the copy of this dispatch of the circular letter to be a true copy in pursuance of Art. 18, para. 4 AVG (General Code of Administration Law). Vienna 27 October 1987 (Signature) ----------------------------------------------------------- Source: "The Mueller Document" by Robert Faurisson Journal of Historical Review Vol. 8 No. 1 pg. 118-120 ----------------------------------------------------------- The above is a transcription of a document first published in 1987 in an Austrian magazine called HALT! The certifier was an observer on the Allied Commissions of Inquiry which issued the letter in 1948 and has testified to its authenticity in court on a number of occasions including the 1988 trial of revisionist publisher Ernst Zuendel. The document is significant in not only what it says, but also in what it does not say. It does not list any camps where the A.C. I. verified people were killed by poison gas. The reason for this is -- according to Lachout -- in all instances investigated the gassing stories proved to be false. Testimony of gassing at other locations were not investigated by the A.C.I. So it cannot be assumed such stories are true if those locations are not in the list above. Nor can it be concluded that all the uninvestigated gassing stories are false simply because all investigated stories were. Nevertheless, this situation raises very serious questions regarding the credibility of such testimony. The circumstances which produced the false tales of gassings at the camps listed in the Mueller document, abandoned stories of RJF soap, lamp shades, and the long-forgotten pedal-powered brain-bashing machine also produced testimony and confessions relating to gassings at the camps in Poland. The two sets of stories are the offspring of common parents -- Allied war time propaganda and war crimes political show-trials. If there is a difference, it is not one of quality. * * * Sources: Robert Lenski, THE HOLOCAUST ON TRIAL: THE CASE OF ERNST ZUNDEL. (1990) "The Mueller Document" by Robert Faurisson Journal of Historical Review Vol. 8 No. 1 (1988) [End of original posting by "Weirwolf" - a documented response follows. knm] Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Date: 17 Feb 1995 14:08:34 +0100 From: uroessl1@news.gwdg.de (Roessler Ulrich) Subject: Re: Mueller Document weirwolf@tyrell.net (Weirwolf) writes: > THE MUELLER DOCUMENT Also known as "Lachout"-document, and exposed as fabrication immediately following its publication in an Austrian Neu-Nazi journal in 1987. (See below). [re-quote of the "document" deleted for brevity - We pick up with Mr. Roessler's response to "Weirwolf's assertions, immediately below. knm] Weirwolf: The above is a transcription of a document first published in 1987 in an Austrian magazine called HALT! The certifier was an observer on the Allied Commissions of Inquiry which issued the letter in 1948 and has testified to its authenticity in court on a number of occasions including the 1988 trial of revisionist publisher Ernst Zuendel. The document is significant in not only what it says, but also in what it does not say. It does not list any camps where the A.C. I. verified people were killed by poison gas . The reason for this is -- according to Lachout -- in all instances investigated the gassing stories proved to be false. Testimony of gassing at other locations were not investigated by the A.C.I. So it cannot be assumed such stories are true if those locations are not in the list above. Mr. Roessler: In several trials as well in many studies it was proved, that mass-murders by gassings have taken place in several of the mentioned KZs. Harry Mazal has posted recently some references about the mass-murders of Soviet POWs with gas in Neuengamme. S.Klarsfeld has published a book with this title: "The Struthof Album : study of the gassing at Natzweiler-Struthof of 86 Jews "whose bodies were to constitute a collection of skeletons: a photographic "document ; Photogr. with original captions of the Legal Identification Regional "Department in Strasbourg / Presented and comm. by Jean-Claude Pressac. Ed. by Serge Klarsfeld. - New York, N.Y.: The Beate Klarsfeld Foundation, 1985. If an Allied Commission established in 1948 that nothing like these gassings took ever place in these KZs there should be preserved some files, reports or whatever about the activities of this alleged commission. An oppression of these "results" of an inquiry can be explained only by a wide-spread conspiracy, where even members of that commission didn't speak out later about their investigations. But what is presented instead relies solely on one person, this Emil Lachout. The main problem, however, with E.Lachout's testimony in his own case is very simple - there is NO documentary proof, that a military-police service in charge of the security of the Allies existed in Austria in 1948. The Allies, especially the 'Kommandatura' in occupied Vienna, which was a four-sector town like Berlin, had only normal Austrian police forces at hand. There does not exist a shred of a document about a Military Guard Battalion in Vienna, nor could Lachout provide any further evidence, that a certain Major M"uller head of a "MPD" ever existed, let alone this MPD as a whole. Rather Lachout, born in 1928, could hardly have been Lieutenant in 1948. In short, the "document" is a bold fabrication - and rather stupid as that, because it invents a complete military establishment which didn't exist in Austria in 1948. So, the main problem with the Lachout-"document" is an intrinsical problem with "Revisionist" scholarship. (source: B.Bailer-Galanda: Lachout-"Dokument", in: W.Benz (ed.): Legenden L"ugen Vorurteile, (M"unchen 1990, 1993 (3)), p.134) >Nor can it be concluded that all the uninvestigated gassing >stories are false simply because all investigated stories were. This is true. As long a historic incidence isn't investigated nothing can be said about it with certainty. But, in relation with this "document" none of these alleged investigations can be proved, nor can be said anything about "stories" (which one?) being false at all, even if taking the "document" at face value. We must conclude, however, that the investigations alleged to in the Lachout-"document" didn't take place or hadn't the result alluded to in the "document" because the main verifiable claims, existence of a complete military establishment, in that document proved to be false, and nothing more about these alleged investigations is said in the "document". >Nevertheless, this situation raises very serious questions >regarding the credibility of such testimony. These questions are indeed very serious, it is only the credibility of Lachout's testimony which should be questioned. >The circumstances which produced the false tales of gassings at >the camps listed in the Mueller document, abandoned stories >of RJF soap, lamp shades, and the long-forgotten pedal-powered >brain-bashing machine also produced testimony and confessions >relating to gassings at the camps in Poland. The two sets of >stories are the offspring of common parents -- Allied war time >propaganda and war crimes political show-trials. If there is a >difference, it is not one of quality. Here the "Revisionist" logic shows again. Completely unspecified "tales of gassings" alluded to in an obviously faked document are taken as "prove" that mass-murders didn't take place in certain KZs while the mass of evidence about the crimes in these camps isn't considered at all. Instead, what we have here is again prove by invented conspiracy, based on fabrications. Most of the "Revisionist" ravings about fabrications, conspiracies and myths should be taken as self-description of "Revisionist scholarship". > * * * >Sources: Robert Lenski, THE HOLOCAUST ON TRIAL: THE >CASE OF ERNST ZUNDEL. (1990) In short: >"The Mueller Document" by Robert Faurisson > Journal of Historical Review Vol. 8 No. 1 (1988) is a fabrication. Is R.Faurisson for real? The consistent refusal of "Revisionist scholars" to even acknowledge the mass of evidence produced by scholars, in trials and by many independent witnesses, let alone to try to justify why they may disregard all these by vague alusions to some conspiracy must not be taken simply as a whim of a certain esoteric strand of inquiry. This "scholarship" is instead a scarcely veiled insult. And, given the outmost severity of the subject, it must be taken as an assault on truth. u.roessler uroessl1@gwdg.de "Thou com'st in such a questionable shape."
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