Path: news.voyager.net!aanews.merit.net!imci3!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.inc.net!news.us.world.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!viper.inow.com!newshub.internex.net!newshub1.internex.net!news.Stanford.EDU!not-for-mail From: rjg@d31rz2.Stanford.EDU (Richard J. Green) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: I am asking for a number, stupid Date: 11 Jun 1996 21:39:21 -0700 Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Lines: 58 Message-ID: <4plhlp$opk@d31rz2.Stanford.EDU> References: <4pisto$5ep@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> <4pl5mg$c7c@news.enter.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: d31rz2.stanford.edu In article <4pl5mg$c7c@news.enter.net>, Yale F. Edeikenwrote: >> mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt Giwer) writes: > >> Cute. If you do not have a number for those immediately executed >> solely because they were Jews simply say so. Just stop the game >> playing. >> >> What is the number? > > The game player seems to be you. Your question makes no sense. Is a >person deliberately starved or worked to death executed? There were >approximately 6 million Jews murdered because they were Jews. The low figure is >5.1 million the high is slightly over 6. Indeed! Hilberg[1] estimates deaths by cause: Ghettoization and general privation: 800,000 Open-air shootings: 1,300,000 Camps: 3,000,000 Total: 5,100,000 He breaks down the camps category as follows: Death camps: 2,700,000 Camps w/ tolls in the low 150,000 10,000's or below Romanian 100,000 Croatian 50,000 Total: 3,000,000 He breaks down death camps as follows: Auschwitz[2]: 1,000,000 Treblinka: 750,000 Belzec: 550,000 Sobibor: 200,000 Kulmhof: 150,000 Lublin: 50,000 Total: 2,700,000 As Mr. Edeiken mentions, Hilberg's estimate is on the low end. [1] Raoul Hilberg, _The Destruction of the European Jews_ volume 3, appendix B, Holmes & Meier: New York (1985) [2] The Auscwitz-Birkenau complex Regards, Rich Green -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard J. Green Dept. of Chemistry rjg@lyman.Stanford.EDU Stanford University http://www-leland.Stanford.EDU/~redcloud Stanford, CA 94305-5080 "I've never been lost, but I've been confused for weeks on end." -John Muir Received: from d31rz2.Stanford.EDU (d31rz2.Stanford.EDU [36.76.0.153]) by vixa.voyager.net (8.7.3/CICNet) with SMTP id WAA14175 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 22:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rjg@localhost) by d31rz2.Stanford.EDU (8.6.8/8.6.6) id TAA27332; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:28:56 -0700 X-UIDL: 834632969.000 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:28:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Richard J. Green" Sender: rjg@d31rz2.Stanford.EDU To: Jamie McCarthy Subject: Re: I am asking for a number, stupid In-Reply-To: <199606122301.TAA18315@vixa.voyager.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Jamie McCarthy wrote: > >>Just one typo, Rich, by the way: > > > >>> Auschwitz[1]: 1,000,000 > > > >Yeah it should be Auschwitz[2] > > Mind if I edit that in the archived file, silently? Go for it. If its an archived file that doesn't purport to be an archive of what was posted, it seems logical to make corrections. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard J. Green Dept. of Chemistry rjg@lyman.Stanford.EDU Stanford University http://www-leland.Stanford.EDU/~redcloud Stanford, CA 94305-5080 "I've never been lost, but I've been confused for weeks on end." -John Muir
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