From schultr@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il Tue May 28 07:57:51 PDT 1996 Article: 39811 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!thor.atcon.com!news.nstn.ca!news.dal.ca!torn!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.biu.ac.il!ashur!schultr From: schultr@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il (Richard Schultz) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Pellets, shower, porous pillars... Date: 28 May 1996 05:01:03 GMT Organization: Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel. Lines: 75 Message-ID: <4oe1af$nl0@cnn.cc.biu.ac.il> References: <319A6526.7575@rio.com> <4nha8u$7t8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4njbuo$1d3@d31sg0.Stanford.EDU> <4nl7mc$qq5@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <4nnrj0$lsu@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU> <4np02m$ic3@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> <4nu5d1$lqa@cnn.cc.biu.ac.il> <4nuiv2$nk7@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <4o8mi1$hj6@cnn.cc.biu.ac.il> <4o8t4n$k80@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ashur.cc.biu.ac.il X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Prince Myshkin (mgiwer@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : schultr@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il (Richard Schultz) wrote: : >So when are you going to post a source (or, I suppose a set of "P Chem : >equations") for your claim that HCN is a byproduct of coke combustion : >or a retraction of that claim in light of the evidence to the contrary : >posted here? : It has already been posted. Where have you been? Flu gases [sic] : from coke are one of the commercial sources of it as you should have : read. But I would never expect a distinguished chemist such as : yourself do know such mundane thing as a commerical source. Because Prince Myshkin appears to be literacy-challenged, I am putting the important words in the following paragraph in BIG LETTERS SO HE CAN SEE THEM. Apologies to those for whom this will bring back memories of Robert McElwaine. Read my lips: HCN is a byproduct of coke PRODUCTION. It is NOT a product of coke COMBUSTION. What is the difference between coke PRODUCTION and coke COMBUSTION? Coke is produced by heating coal in a closed chamber. After the oxygen has been used up (forming CO and CO2, which make up part of the stack gases), the coal distills in the ABSENCE of OXYGEN. The distillation produces any number of products, from lightweight gases (including HCN) to oils and tars of increasingly lower volatility. But (I am now repeating this for about the fourth time) all of this (INCLUDING the PRODUCTION of HCN) occurs when there is NO OXYGEN PRESENT. Now what happens when you BURN coke? You heat it in the PRESENCE of OXYGEN. One more time: heat coal in ABSENCE of oxygen -- get HCN heat coke in PRESENCE of oxygen -- do NOT get HCN Is this clear? Now, if you have a source that says that HCN is produced in the combustion of coke (hint: "flue gases" are the gases you get out in the production of coke, not in its combustion), then please post them. Of course, since you seem to think that CO2 is not an acid, the difference between the presence of oxygen and the absence of oxygen might be just a little too subtle for you. : >And when do you plan to post your translation of that Hitler quote? : Which quote are you talking about? The following quote, which I have posted at least three times, and which is taken from a speech Hitler gave on 15 March 1942. The passage is reprinted on page 80 of _Der Fuehrer Ueber die Juden_, ed. Gerhard Brendel (Muenchen: Zentralverlag der NSDAP, 1943): Denn es ist unertraeglich, dass das Leben von Hunderten, von Millionen Menschen von hoechstem kulturellem Wert und emsigsten Fleiss fuer immer abhaengig sein soll vom Wollen einer kleinen, wahrhaft verbrecherischen Gemeinschaft juedisch-kapitalistischer Weltverschwoerer und der von ihnen vergewaltigten oeffentlichen Meinung einer dadurch allein gegen Europa eingestellter Voelker und Staaten. Es kann daher auch nur eine einzige Loesung geben, naemlich: diesen Kampf so lange zu fuehren, bis die Sicherheit eines dauernden Friedens gegeben ist, d. h. aber bis zur Vernichtung der Feinde dieses Friedens! I await your explanation of the above quotation. ----- Richard Schultz schultr@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry tel: 972-3-531-8065 Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel fax: 972-3-535-1250 ----- The real trouble with the Jews is that they are cruel. Anybody with a knowledge of history knows how they tortured poor debtors in secret catacombs, all through the Middle Ages. Whereas the Nordic is distinguished by his gentleness and his kind-heartedness to friends, children, dogs, and people of inferior races. B. Windrip, _Zero Hour_
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