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Subject: Re: Photos deny the story
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:25:21 -0700
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In article <31c031cc.5416099@news.pacificnet.net>, tm@pacificnet.net (tom
moran) wrote:

The title of this thread should be called "Moran denies the photos" given
that Moran completely and unequivocably misrepresents both the photo in
_Scientific American_ and the sequence of events that led to the final
destruction of the Kremas. Moran's claim that the Nazis did not start the
demolition of the Kremas months prior to their actual destruction in
January 1945 and the Russian liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau clearly
contradicts the eywitness testimony, photographs, and SS reports that
detail otherwise.

>         Published in "Scientific American" March, 1996, "The Art and
> Science of Photoreconnaissance" is a aerial photograph of the
> Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp.
>         Even though the Holocaust story has it that all the crematoriums
> were destroyed by the Nazis this photograph taken Jan. 14, 1945, four
> days before the Soviet liberation of the camp on Jan. 18th, shows
> three of them intact. Cremas II, III and V.

"...This image, taken as Russian troops approached on January 14, 1945,
shows the snow that Elie Weisel, who was in the complex at the time, wrote
of in _Night_. The photograph indicates that the gas chambers have been or
are being destroyed and that the evacuation of the complex had begun...."
(Scientific Amercian_, March 1996; p.84 [caption to photo of the Birkenau
camp].) 

Kremas II and III were not demolished (with dynamite) until January 20,
1945. They were in the process of being dismantled from October 1944 on,
with photographs of this process taken in December 1944 and in January
1945:

"In photographs taken by a further United States photographic
reconnaisance on December 21, the sole aim of which was to show the extent
of the damage at Monowitz during the bombing raid three days before, many
of the electrified fences and guard towers of Birkenau [Mexico] can now be
seen to have been dismantled. At Crematorium II the undressing room roof
adjacent to the gas chamber had been removed, and the roof and chimney of
the Crematorium itself were in the process of being dismantled. The fences
around the Crematorium can also be seen to have been removed. Around
Crematorium III the fences are also gone, and the whole building
surrounded by debris..." (_Auschwitz and the Allies_, p.332)

"On January 14 the United States Air Force flew its twelfth photographic
reconnaisance flight over Monowitz. Once more, all of Auschwitz and all of
Birkenau were included. Studying the photographs today, the continuing
dismantling of the gas chambers and crematoria is evident...." (_Auschwitz
and the Allies_, p.334)

> Whatever alibis Holocaust supporters come up with, the Germans
> could not have destroyed these buildings in the four days and removed
> all traces. Especially with the approach of the Soviets so imminent.
> After all it was only four days, which we must realize the Germans
> would have known that its being overtaken by the Soviets would be
> imminent, and they would have realized this weeks, even months in
> advance.

The dismantling of Kremas II and III began in early December of 1944. The
Sonderkomando revolt in early October of 1944 detroyed Krema IV and the
demolition of Krema IV's walls commenced in mid-October of 1944. The
demolition (with dynamite) of Krema II and III took place on January 20,
1944 and Krema V, which was operational until the end, was demolished
(with dynamite) on January 26, 1945 

> If crimes of the magnitude alleged were committed, it is certain
> the Germans would have tended to matters way before.

They did, as can be seen by the following chain of events (_Auschwitz
Chronicles, pp.731-805):

"October 14 [1944] ...The Special Squad begins to break up the walls of
Crematorium IV, which was destroyed during the uprising [on October 7]"

"December 1 [1944] ...The Crematorium III demolition squad is created in
Birkenau. It consists of 100 female prisoners whorked on the demolition of
the crematorium.... At the same time a squad of male prisoners is put
together for the demolition of the crematorium. The number of persons in
it is unknown. The prisoners have to pound holes in the walls of the gas
chambers for placement od dynamite charges (APMO, Dpr-Hd/3, p.134,
Statements of former Female Prisoner Stanislawa Rachawalowa).

"December 5 [1944] ...The women's squad employed in dismantling
Crematorium III increases by 50, to 150.... The woodleand demolotion squad
is created in Birkenau, to which 50 female prisoners are sent. The squad
works on the grounds of the so-called big sauna and Crematorium IV. It
must clear the grounds and fill in and cover with grass all the pits
previously used for burning the corpses of those killed in the gas
chambers. It must also sift through the human ash remains before they are
strewn in the Vistula. Little trees are planted on the leveled ground....
The male and female prisoners attempt to sabotage the orders of the SS and
avoid whenever possible removing the ashes of the murdered before the pits
are filled in, in the hope that these human remains- some incompletely
burned bones -will in the near future prove the crime of genocide that was
committed here."

January 15 [1945] ...70 prisoners, former members of the Special Squad,
work in Squad 104-B, the crematory disassembly squad, which is employed in
the demolition of crematorium facilities. The disassembled facilities are
brought to a siding of a connecting railroad track and are trnasported to
Gross-Rosen.* The prisoners  knock holes in the walls of the crematorium
buildings and the gas chambers for the placement of explosives.... 210
prisoners work in the squads demolishing the barracks in the former
women's camp** in B-I and B-III ('Mexico'). The squad is designated 105-B
Barracks Demolition Squad B-I and B-III."

"* Part of these faciities are found after the war on the so-=called
construction yard in Auschwitz."

"** The demolition of some of the barracks in Women's Camp B-Ia-b can be
seen on the aerial potographs made on January 14, 1945."

"January 20 [1945] ...The SS division under Corporal Perschel blows up the
already partly demolished Crematoriums II and III and abandons the camp."

"January 23 [1945] ...An SS division arrives in the prisoner's infirmary
camp in B-IIf in the afternoon...they set 30 storeroom barracks in the
personal effects camp on fire.... These barracks burn for several days.
After the liberation, 1,185,345 pieces of women's and men's outerwear,
43,255 pairs of shoes, 13,694 carpets, and a large number of toothbrushes,
shaving brushes, and other items such as protheses, glasses, etc., among
other things are found in the six remaining partially burned barracks."

"January 26 [1945] ...At 1:00 A.M. the SS squad with the task of
eliminating the traces of SS crimes blows up Crematorium V, the last of
the crematoriums in Birkenau."

"January 27 [1945] ...The first Red Army reconnaissance troops arrive in
Birkenau and Auschwitz at around 3:00 P.M. and are joyfully greeted by the
liberated prisoners.... On the grounds of the main camp are 48 corpses and
in Birkenau over 600 corpses of male and female prisoners who were shot to
death or died otherwise in the last few days.

"At the time of the Red Army's arrival there are 7,000 sick and exhausted
prisoners in the Auschwitz, Birkenau, and Monowitz camps. Dr, Otto Wolken
remains in the camp and is one of the organizers of the assistance
measures for the prisoners.... He reports the following numbers of
surviving prisoners; Auschwitz- 1,200 sick prisoners; Birkenau- 5,800
prisoners, of whom 4,000 are women; Monowitz- 600 sick prisoners."

> It is written hte Soviets installed a "Extraordinary Commission"
> the very day of liberation of the camp and yet no photos are presented
> on the Holocaust promotional circuit of these buildings, or what was
> left, lest of course the one and only photograph of "Crema II" which
> is nothing more than a collapsed slab of concrete.     

Photos of the dynamited Kremas taken in 1945, after the liberation of the
camp, can be seen on pages 190-192 of _Auschwitz: a history in
photographs_, as well as on page 261 of _Auschwitz: technique and
operation of the gas chambers_. 

In addition, the USAAF air photo, taken on February 19, 1945, shows that
Kremas II and III were demolished by explosions. (RG 373 Can F 5367, exp.
3185, _Air Photo Evidence_, p.66.)

Mark

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