From ecdl@wpg.ramp.net Tue Jun 11 15:11:00 PDT 1996 Article: 42589 of alt.revisionism Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.radical-left,alt.politics.perot,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.newt-gingrich Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news2.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!imci2!imci3!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.pitt.edu!newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!news.wpg.ramp.net!news From: Joe LockhartSubject: Re: JOEBUCK TAX RIPOFF LIE - Canada Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <1996Jun11.063124.398@wpg.ramp.net> Sender: news@wpg.ramp.net (news) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: The Euro-Christian Defence League References: <4or1lf$p8s@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4pdgq8$pu8@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <8JUN199623161460@cmi.arizona.edu> <4pe2h8$j3m@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <4pg873$jbm@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 06:31:24 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Lines: 175 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:42589 alt.politics.nationalism.white:22376 alt.conspiracy:57659 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:319841 alt.politics.radical-left:97161 alt.politics.perot:48697 alt.politics.usa.republican:214006 From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.rus h-limbaugh,alt.politics.radical-left,alt.politics.perot,alt.politics.usa.re publican,alt.fan.newt-gingrich Subject: Re: JOEBUCK TAX RIPOFF LIE - Canada Date: 9 Jun 1996 21:27:15 -0700 Organization: The Nizkor Project Message-ID: <4pg873$jbm@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> References: <4or1lf$p8s@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4pdgq8$pu8@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <8JUN199623161460@cmi.arizona.edu> <4pe2h8$j3m@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> In article <4pe2h8$j3m@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>, joebuck@ix.netcom.com (Charles) wrote: > The *point* is that Jews have the rather unique advantage of NOT >NEEDING TO personally pay the added expenses (i.e. higher food prices) McOyVay: Demonstrate that "higher food prices" result from kosher food certification. ECDL: O.K. "Kosher products usually cost more than their non-Kosher counterparts." Winnipeg Free Press June 5,1996 Page D1 >ADMITTED SALARIES OF $5,000 A DAY PER RABBI! -- TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE >(WHETHER JEWISH OR NOT) PAYS THESE INCREASED COSTS. McVay: Demonstrate that rabbis are paid $5000 per day. Document your claim. ECDL: The Rabbinical group Orthodox Union or OU receives "several thousand to several hundred thousand dollars a year, though the agency declines to go into detail..." Winnipeg Free Press June 5,1996 Page D1 > Really, I don't know how I could be more explicit than this, though >I'm sure you'll think of some other sophistry to reply with as a >diversion from the real issue. McVay: Demonstrate that the real issue is not blind hatred for Jews. ECDL: McVay demonstrate that you're not a lackey that on cue is skewing the issue with his hyperbole. How typical McVay. Can you imagine the furore all across this country, if Christians demanded that a food manufacturer pay a Minister a fee to put a symbol on their products and then pass on the cost to all the population? The cry would be loud and clear. Of course lackeys like McVay will say the corporation is not 'forced' to let a Rabbi certify his product. The only thing that corporate America is concerned with beside the bottom line is image. Being some-what of a politician, CEOs and their managers know full well to say no to a Jew is like committing political, or economical suicide. This is what the Bible states about fear of the Jews: "And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them." Esther 8:17 " The Jews gathered themselves together in their cities throughout all the provinces of the king Ahasuerus, to lay hand on such as sought their hurt: and no man could withstand them; for the fear of them fell upon all people." Esther 9:2 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13 "And after this Joseph of Arimathaea, being a disciple of Jesus, but secretly for fear of the Jews, besought Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus: and Pilate gave [him] leave. He came therefore, and took the body of Jesus." John 19:38 " Then the same day at evening, being the first [day] of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace [be] unto you." John 20:19 > And again, IF Jews were a numerically large percentage of the >population, it MIGHT make sense for companies to pay rabbis exhorbitant salaries to have all their products certified as kosher. McVay: Demonstrate that Jews, and only Jews, purchase kosher-certified product. Document your claim. ECDL: Jews and goyim both purchase Kosher products. The only different is that some Jews know about the Kosher scam and look for the little symbols. If you were to ask most other people, you would find few if any know about 'Kosher' food Tax And yes McVay, by definition it is a TAX. 1) Taxation: 'the system of compulsory contributions, usually monetary, levied by a government upon persons, corporations, and property, primarily for fiscal purposes....' Source: Funk & Wagnalls Standard Reference Encyclopedia Vol 23 Page 8418 According to the definition, although the money collected is not for the government, the cost of Kosher food is a 'compulsory contribution.' And therefore constitutes a Tax. Is there a 'Kosher Tax' scam? We at the ECDL believe that there is a ongoing scam that is being funded by 98% of the people for only 2% of the people. You are told that the Kosher certificate will help other people like Muslims, and non-meat eaters. The word Kosher is a Jewish term. The certificate is given by a Jewish Rabbi and the payment is made to a Jewish agency. So who benefits again? Where is the ADL in all of this? The ADL in one of their press releases stated: ADL: `PROFOUNDLY TROUBLING' RADISSON CHARLOTTE HOTEL PROMOTES ITSELF AS `CHRISTIAN FAMILY RESORT' The ADL said such a message "from a corporation which endeavours to serve the public regardless of religious affiliation is highly offensive." What about all the corporations that endeavour to serve the public at large that now have to pay money to one religion? Why is the ADL not 'profoundly troubled' about that? Should Christians support their own demise? The real question is: Why should Christians be forced to support a race/religion and a people that promote homosexuality, abortion, multiculturalism, all against Christian beliefs. And for the most part without their knowledge. The gutless politicians and Ministers have remained silent while we unknowingly sit at home and eat food that in part will pay for the murder of un-borne babies, support 'multiculturalism,' or support the homosexual moment. Is it extortion? I can tell you with all certainty that if a man named 'Geno' came calling for money from a manufacturer, the politicians call of 'Mafia,' 'extortion,' 'racketeering' would be loud and un-relenting. But, because this scam is being pulled-off by God's 'chosen ones' there is little from our politicians and nothing from the lying Christian Ministers. You have a choice, some will tell you not to buy Kosher products, but at 20,000 items (1991) what are you going to do starve? ___ The Euro-Christian Defence League P.O. Box 345 Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, R3C 2H6 24 Hr Hotline (204) 775-0878 Visit our Web Site at: http://www.pathcom.com/~freedom/ecdl/homepage.html Or visit the Freedom Site at: http://www.pathcom.com/~freedom/
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